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NuTex
12-07-2003, 02:43 PM
Here's an article about a growing trend of some women to have surgery on their feet so they can wear designer shoes. While not a nudism issue of course I believe this is a body shame issue. And I think that applies to this forum.

NuTex
Heels over head? Surgeons make the shoe fit
Growing numbers of women are changing their feet to fit into designer shoes
The New York Times
Days after her daughter's engagement a year ago, Sheree Reese went to her doctor and said that she would do almost anything to wear stilettos again.

"I was not going to walk down the aisle in sneakers," said Ms. Reese, a 60-year-old professor of speech pathology at Kean University in Union, N.J.

She had been forced to give up wearing her collection of high-end, high-heeled shoes because they caused searing pain.

So Ms. Reese, like a growing number of American women, put her foot under the knife. The objective was to remove a bunion, a swelling of the big-toe joint, but the results were disastrous.

"The pain spread to my other toes and never went away," she said. "Suddenly, I couldn't walk in anything. My foot, metaphorically, died."

With vanity always in fashion and shoes reaching iconic cultural status, women are having parts of their toes lopped off to fit into the latest Manolo Blahniks or Jimmy Choos. Cheerful how-to stories about these operations have appeared in women's magazines and major newspapers and on television news programs.

But the stories rarely note the perils of the procedures. For the sake of better "toe cleavage," as it is known to the fashion-conscious, women are risking permanent disability, according to many orthopedists and podiatrists.

"It's a scary trend," said Dr. Rock Positano, director of the nonoperative foot and ankle service at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. Dr. Positano said that his waiting room increasingly is filled with women hobbled by failed cosmetic foot procedures, those done solely to improve the appearance of the foot or help patients fit into fashionable shoes.

More than half of the 175 members of the American Orthopaedic Foot & Ankle Society who responded to a recent survey by the group said that they had treated patients with problems resulting from cosmetic foot surgery. The society will soon issue a statement condemning the procedures, said Rich Cantrall, its executive director.

The American Podiatric Medical Association is also likely to formally discourage medically unnecessary foot operations, said Dr. Glenn Gastwirth, executive director of the group.

'It's reprehensible'

"I think it's reprehensible for a physician to correct someone's feet so they can get into Jimmy Choo shoes," said Dr. Sharon Dreeben, an orthopedic surgeon in La Jolla, Calif., who is chairwoman of the foot and ankle society's public education committee.


But advocates for the procedures say that critics simply do not understand the importance of high heels. "Some of these women invest more in their shoes than they do in the stock market," said Dr. Suzanne Levine, an Upper East Side podiatrist who is widely quoted in women's magazines and has appeared on network television promoting the procedures.

"Take your average woman and give her heels instead of flats, and she'll suddenly get whistles on the street," Dr. Levine said. "I do everything I can to get them back into their shoes."

Foot fashion and function have, of course, long been in conflict. Chinese girls' feet were bound to shorten them by bending the toes backward. High heels have been fashionable in the United States for decades, even though they can cause not only serious foot problems but knee, pelvic, back, shoulder and even jaw pain.

It is not just the height of shoes that can lead to damage. A 1991 study found that almost 90 percent of women routinely wear shoes that are one to two sizes too narrow. A 1993 study found that women have more than 80 percent of all foot surgeries, primarily because their shoes are too tight.

Narrow shoes can cause the big toe to bend outward, permanently changing the shape of the bone and causing a bunion, or swollen big-toe joint. Women have more than 94 percent of bunion surgeries, the 1993 study found.

By scrunching up the smaller toes, fashionable shoes can also cause or worsen claw or hammer toes, a condition in which the smaller toes are permanently bent downward. Painful and unsightly corns or calluses often form on the tops of such toes.

Foot doctors disagree sharply over how to respond to such problems. Most advise patients to stop wearing the offending shoes.

"It's far simpler to cut the shoe to fit the foot than to cut the foot to fit the shoe," said Dr. Pierce Scranton, a Seattle orthopedic surgeon who was an author of the 1993 study.

But an increasing number of doctors are performing delicate and expensive operations to allow women to continue to wear their favorite shoes.

'Fulfilling a need'

Dr. Levine's Park Avenue office, called Institute Beaut?, is decorated with cream-and-rose wallpaper, pictures of Dr. Levine with celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey, Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer and Joan Lunden, and framed copies of articles in which she is quoted.

Dr. Levine, who herself often wears fashionable high heels, explains that she is "simply fulfilling a need, a need to wear stylish shoes."

Although she would not provide specific numbers, Dr. Levine said that this year she will undertake 40 percent more cosmetic foot surgeries than she did three years ago. Among the most common are operations to shorten toes, at a cost of $2,500 per toe, and collagen injections into the balls of the feet ? to restore padding lost from years of wearing high heels ? about $500 per injection, she said.

Business is booming

Her business is taking off, Dr. Levine explained, because shoes are an increasingly indispensable fashion accessory. "These women come in and say, 'Listen, I just came from my other podiatrist who told me to stop wearing high heels, and I don't want to hear that,' " she said.

Many of her patients are women who want to look their best, she said. To prove her point, she walked into an examining room where Jennifer Cho, a 27-year-old Manhattan lawyer, was waiting to have the stitches on her right toes examined.

Wearing high heels caused her discomfort, Ms. Cho said, and her toes had begun to curl downward and develop corns. She saw Dr. Levine on NBC's Today program and decided to have the problem fixed. On Monday, Dr. Levine shortened the toes on Ms. Cho's right foot, and she is scheduled to operate on the left toes Friday.

"This will help me wear the shoes that I want to wear," Ms. Cho said.

Dr. Levine and her partner, Dr. Everett Lautin, said that critics do not understand that when doctors tell their patients not to wear high heels, patients do so anyway.

"People say, 'Why do toe surgery if they work just fine?' " Dr. Lautin said. "Well, 'Why do a nose job when your nose is working just fine?' It's the same thing. People want to look their best."

The answer, Dr. Positano said, is that "you don't walk on your face."

The foot is a complex network of 26 bones, 33 joints, 107 ligaments and 19 muscles that must support more than 100,000 pounds of pressure for every mile walked. Even small changes can unexpectedly undermine the structural integrity and cause crippling pain, Dr. Positano and others said. As for Ms. Reese, she finally found 2-inch heels that she could briefly wear while walking down the aisle at her daughter's wedding in July. She quickly changed into a pair of ballet slippers with special supports. She expects, however, that she will never again be able to walk barefoot or wear anything but specially designed shoes.

"I really regret being worried about looking good for my daughter's wedding," Ms. Reese said, "because I'll pay for it for the rest of my life."

NuTex
12-07-2003, 02:43 PM
Here's an article about a growing trend of some women to have surgery on their feet so they can wear designer shoes. While not a nudism issue of course I believe this is a body shame issue. And I think that applies to this forum.

NuTex
Heels over head? Surgeons make the shoe fit
Growing numbers of women are changing their feet to fit into designer shoes
The New York Times
Days after her daughter's engagement a year ago, Sheree Reese went to her doctor and said that she would do almost anything to wear stilettos again.

"I was not going to walk down the aisle in sneakers," said Ms. Reese, a 60-year-old professor of speech pathology at Kean University in Union, N.J.

She had been forced to give up wearing her collection of high-end, high-heeled shoes because they caused searing pain.

So Ms. Reese, like a growing number of American women, put her foot under the knife. The objective was to remove a bunion, a swelling of the big-toe joint, but the results were disastrous.

"The pain spread to my other toes and never went away," she said. "Suddenly, I couldn't walk in anything. My foot, metaphorically, died."

With vanity always in fashion and shoes reaching iconic cultural status, women are having parts of their toes lopped off to fit into the latest Manolo Blahniks or Jimmy Choos. Cheerful how-to stories about these operations have appeared in women's magazines and major newspapers and on television news programs.

But the stories rarely note the perils of the procedures. For the sake of better "toe cleavage," as it is known to the fashion-conscious, women are risking permanent disability, according to many orthopedists and podiatrists.

"It's a scary trend," said Dr. Rock Positano, director of the nonoperative foot and ankle service at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. Dr. Positano said that his waiting room increasingly is filled with women hobbled by failed cosmetic foot procedures, those done solely to improve the appearance of the foot or help patients fit into fashionable shoes.

More than half of the 175 members of the American Orthopaedic Foot & Ankle Society who responded to a recent survey by the group said that they had treated patients with problems resulting from cosmetic foot surgery. The society will soon issue a statement condemning the procedures, said Rich Cantrall, its executive director.

The American Podiatric Medical Association is also likely to formally discourage medically unnecessary foot operations, said Dr. Glenn Gastwirth, executive director of the group.

'It's reprehensible'

"I think it's reprehensible for a physician to correct someone's feet so they can get into Jimmy Choo shoes," said Dr. Sharon Dreeben, an orthopedic surgeon in La Jolla, Calif., who is chairwoman of the foot and ankle society's public education committee.


But advocates for the procedures say that critics simply do not understand the importance of high heels. "Some of these women invest more in their shoes than they do in the stock market," said Dr. Suzanne Levine, an Upper East Side podiatrist who is widely quoted in women's magazines and has appeared on network television promoting the procedures.

"Take your average woman and give her heels instead of flats, and she'll suddenly get whistles on the street," Dr. Levine said. "I do everything I can to get them back into their shoes."

Foot fashion and function have, of course, long been in conflict. Chinese girls' feet were bound to shorten them by bending the toes backward. High heels have been fashionable in the United States for decades, even though they can cause not only serious foot problems but knee, pelvic, back, shoulder and even jaw pain.

It is not just the height of shoes that can lead to damage. A 1991 study found that almost 90 percent of women routinely wear shoes that are one to two sizes too narrow. A 1993 study found that women have more than 80 percent of all foot surgeries, primarily because their shoes are too tight.

Narrow shoes can cause the big toe to bend outward, permanently changing the shape of the bone and causing a bunion, or swollen big-toe joint. Women have more than 94 percent of bunion surgeries, the 1993 study found.

By scrunching up the smaller toes, fashionable shoes can also cause or worsen claw or hammer toes, a condition in which the smaller toes are permanently bent downward. Painful and unsightly corns or calluses often form on the tops of such toes.

Foot doctors disagree sharply over how to respond to such problems. Most advise patients to stop wearing the offending shoes.

"It's far simpler to cut the shoe to fit the foot than to cut the foot to fit the shoe," said Dr. Pierce Scranton, a Seattle orthopedic surgeon who was an author of the 1993 study.

But an increasing number of doctors are performing delicate and expensive operations to allow women to continue to wear their favorite shoes.

'Fulfilling a need'

Dr. Levine's Park Avenue office, called Institute Beaut?, is decorated with cream-and-rose wallpaper, pictures of Dr. Levine with celebrities such as Oprah Winfrey, Katie Couric, Diane Sawyer and Joan Lunden, and framed copies of articles in which she is quoted.

Dr. Levine, who herself often wears fashionable high heels, explains that she is "simply fulfilling a need, a need to wear stylish shoes."

Although she would not provide specific numbers, Dr. Levine said that this year she will undertake 40 percent more cosmetic foot surgeries than she did three years ago. Among the most common are operations to shorten toes, at a cost of $2,500 per toe, and collagen injections into the balls of the feet ? to restore padding lost from years of wearing high heels ? about $500 per injection, she said.

Business is booming

Her business is taking off, Dr. Levine explained, because shoes are an increasingly indispensable fashion accessory. "These women come in and say, 'Listen, I just came from my other podiatrist who told me to stop wearing high heels, and I don't want to hear that,' " she said.

Many of her patients are women who want to look their best, she said. To prove her point, she walked into an examining room where Jennifer Cho, a 27-year-old Manhattan lawyer, was waiting to have the stitches on her right toes examined.

Wearing high heels caused her discomfort, Ms. Cho said, and her toes had begun to curl downward and develop corns. She saw Dr. Levine on NBC's Today program and decided to have the problem fixed. On Monday, Dr. Levine shortened the toes on Ms. Cho's right foot, and she is scheduled to operate on the left toes Friday.

"This will help me wear the shoes that I want to wear," Ms. Cho said.

Dr. Levine and her partner, Dr. Everett Lautin, said that critics do not understand that when doctors tell their patients not to wear high heels, patients do so anyway.

"People say, 'Why do toe surgery if they work just fine?' " Dr. Lautin said. "Well, 'Why do a nose job when your nose is working just fine?' It's the same thing. People want to look their best."

The answer, Dr. Positano said, is that "you don't walk on your face."

The foot is a complex network of 26 bones, 33 joints, 107 ligaments and 19 muscles that must support more than 100,000 pounds of pressure for every mile walked. Even small changes can unexpectedly undermine the structural integrity and cause crippling pain, Dr. Positano and others said. As for Ms. Reese, she finally found 2-inch heels that she could briefly wear while walking down the aisle at her daughter's wedding in July. She quickly changed into a pair of ballet slippers with special supports. She expects, however, that she will never again be able to walk barefoot or wear anything but specially designed shoes.

"I really regret being worried about looking good for my daughter's wedding," Ms. Reese said, "because I'll pay for it for the rest of my life."

shãybare
12-07-2003, 03:25 PM
NuTex

That is a horror story. I don't think these women have body shame. I think they are brain dead. But then again, that's just me. /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

NuTex
12-07-2003, 03:43 PM
I agree that it certainly is a horror story. I couldn't believe it as I read it. I made sure my daughter heard it and knew my opinion about how these women were being mutilated for shoes.

Unfortunatly I think there is some body shame involved. Their motivation is the false look that high heels give them. I think one reason is because they're ashamed of how their legs look and will do anything. Society wants every woman to be a living Barbie doll.

But that's just my opinion.
NuTex

hw
12-07-2003, 06:05 PM
I can't believe in this day and age women are still subjecting themselves to such torture. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif Just goes to prove some people have more dollars than sense. /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
I haven't owned a pair of high heels since high school...you know when the earth was still cooling. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif lol I will never own another pair either. Why? Because it hurts, DUH!
When I do have to wear shoes in the winter they are comfortable and flat. Dress up time...flat sandles.
I know many banks used to require women tellers to wear high heels; talk about discrimination! /infopop/emoticons/icon_mad.gif
Thanks for posting this NuTex. It is a real eye opener. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Croydon
12-07-2003, 06:09 PM
This has nothing to do w/body shame or brain dead women. Body shame is when some1 feels disgusted or shameful of a body part that they have the need to cover it or not look at it. These women having foot surgery simply want to improve themselves and there's nothing wrong with that.

I have had plastic surggery to change somethhing, does that mean I was ashamed. Doubt it, I just wanted to improve myself. We live in a society where we are often judged by our looks (not saying it is right) and people place a lot of emphasis on their looks. We ALL want to look our best and for some, they will make changes in order to achieve that goal. You are not in the minds of these people so the last thing that you should comment on is how they feel about their body

shãybare
12-07-2003, 07:22 PM
I just reread the above article to make sure I had not misread or misinterpreted what I read.
While I do understand and have no problem with individuals having different types of surgery to improve things to improve themselves to make them feel better about themselves, I stand by my previous post.

missouriboy
12-08-2003, 04:34 AM
No, not brain-dead, just brain-damaged.

Not body shame, just conformist vanity.

When people go to such pathetic extremes just to kow-tow to the dictates of the fashion industry, look for them to appear next in the Darwin Awards.

Common sense says the shoe should fit the foot, not the other way around. A pox on fashion designers who cause such trauma in our land. But also realize... those designer jerks can't succeed without the dumber jerks who support them!

Jochanaan
12-08-2003, 05:23 AM
When many women willingly submit to an operation that might as easily cripple as succeed, something's seriously wrong with our society. There's got to be a better way.

Actually, there is: The nudist way! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Seriously, I'd love to see a protest in which ladies, preferably in formals or business suits, lined up in front of shoe stores and burned their high heels! But I'm not a lady, so it's not my place to organize such an event.

And surely some designer could come up with a shoe that both looks gorgeous and fits right.

shãybare
12-08-2003, 05:39 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jochanaan:
When many women willingly submit to an operation that might as easily cripple as succeed, something's seriously wrong with our society. There's got to be a better way.

Actually, there is: The nudist way! /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif

Seriously, I'd love to see a protest in which ladies, preferably in formals or business suits, lined up in front of shoe stores and burned their high heels! But I'm not a lady, so it's not my place to organize such an event.

And surely some designer could come up with a shoe that both looks gorgeous and fits right. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Believe me. There would still be those wanting their feet cropped to fit a smaller size show. The fashion industry makes billions or even kazillions of money while they prey on the vanity of men and women. That's right, it's not just women that fall for the fasion indsustry line. Michael Jackson for one.

tarsus
12-08-2003, 10:12 AM
i agree shaybare on this issue. what some do in the name of fashion is beyond me. why cripple yourself so someone else can make money?
and yes i am considering a face lift,and do not see this as a double standred,have thought about it for some time.
like h.w. i have been around since the dinosausr,
and in a youth culture,as is in this country,it can be difficult for an ageing population.

Boreas
12-08-2003, 04:40 PM
This is a disturbing story for sure, especially when high heels probably got these women to where they are today. Bunions are nasty, I know I am working on one or two. They come from wearing bad shoes, or body mechanics, or both. In my case, more body mechanics because lots of people in my family before me had bunions, and I have mostly worn fairly sensible shoes. I would only have bunion surgery for pain relief, never for cosmetic reasons.

Body shame or caving to fashion dictates? Is there a huge difference?

Life is too short to wear tight shoes!

NudeAl
12-08-2003, 05:45 PM
It makes me wonder how far have women really advanced in terms of equality? I mean you would never find a man that would ever consider doing this to himself! Wasn't it the Chinese Mandarins who traditionaly bound the feet of thier young females to make them more attractive? Making it impossible for them to walk. You've come a long way baby?? I guess not that far if this is happening.