Living in a Nudist Resort

This is a poll about whether or not you would live in a nudist resort if you could.

This is a poll about whether or not you would live in a nudist resort if you could.

[shãybare]

Yes. And as they say,"In a heartbeat". Although I get to go nude about all the time where I presently live, it is not with other nudists. It would be nice to be able to share my lifestyle with other nudists every day.

[Trailscout]

I voted "NO" and here's why:

As much as I love nudist resorts, it can be noisy at night with all the music and talk. Adjacent to the resort are trailers. Now I have lived in a trailer park and found that to be too noisy as well.

I want several acres of land to farm and raise fruit trees. The ideal property would have a small lake where I could fish, swim and go boating. I enjoy gardening and enjoy crafts of various kinds. I need space for all that.

My 5 year plan does include living close to a nudist resort. I would go there almost every weekend and some weekdays in the warmer months.

[Thenoodeone]

I would move if there was one near us a little further south..

Hi Jon-Marc,have u ever visited Forest Hills??

[Atlantis Buff]

I voted no. I have my reasons, mainly I don't want to cut myself off from humanity in general.

[Trailscout]

Atlantis,

You raise a very good point. I have quite a few relatives who are not nudist and would never visit me at a nudist resort.

But if I lived in a small trailer, whether at an ordinary trailer park or at a nudist park, my cousins, etc... could not stay overnight with me anyway. I guess they could stay at a nearby motel and we could visit there.

Now if you are worried that living at a nudist resort would reveal the "SECRET" of your nudist life to your relatives, well that is a different sort of problem... /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

Well, of course, there are a lot of things to consider when making such a decision. It depennds on how close knit your family is. If you have a lot of visitors who wouldn't think of going to a nudist resort to see you, it wouldn't work for you.

There's nothing preventing me from doing this. I called the owner today as he requested, and he wasn't there. I expected to be moving in today. Oh well, at least I can still come to this forum until I do get moved. Then I will be getting DSL with the new phone company.

I was a member of Forest Hills for a year. It was too much like a retirement home for nudists--mostly old people. It was also too small and too hilly. I was one of the youngest there at age 55.

I voted no. I have seen what happens when you do live inside a resort. You are right up against your neighbors, especially if you are in a travel trailer or mobile home. You hear everything and everyone else knows everything you do.

I like my privacy. I'm just a few minutes away, I have a nice back yard the dogs like to play in and it's private so I don't have to worry about clothes. I can be in the hottub at my club in under ten minutes.

There is a community right aross from Paradise and not far from Como where a lot of nudists live. I've heard about half the residents are nudists. You get more home for your money outside the resorts and don't have anyone snooping on you.

[BareDebCNA]

I have in the past with my ex husband back in the 80's in San Antonio and we (my husband of almost 17 years)will as soon as we retire from the military. We have no qualms about it and very much look forward to "in a heartbeat"!! ]
Have a gerat nude day/night /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif
Deb /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

[Atlantis Buff]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:
Atlantis,

You raise a very good point. I have quite a few relatives who are not nudist and would never visit me at a nudist resort.

But if I lived in a small trailer, whether at an ordinary trailer park or at a nudist park, my cousins, etc... could not stay overnight with me anyway. I guess they could stay at a nearby motel and we could visit there.

Now if you are worried that living at a nudist resort would reveal the "SECRET" of your nudist life to your relatives, well that is a different sort of problem... /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>I'm not afraid of my relatives any more. But I feel living in a nudist resort is almost like cutting myself off of the rest of the world. No matter how "Loxie and Zoot" sensationalize living at a resort, I have other dreams.

For instance, every time I watch some foriegn country on PBS or the Travel Channel, it makes me want to visit that country. If I made the same lifestyle change that Jon-Marc did (move in a trailer), I could be potentially cutting myself off from that chance.

For instance, I would love to visit Egypt and see Cairo for myself. Or visit Jordan and see Petra.
Or even China and see the Shaolin Monks. Maybe even India. No. I can't live in a Nudist resort and live a life like that. There are places I'd like to see.

All Apologies, but I respect Jon-Marc for his decision, but I can't make the same.

Edit: Come to think of it, I'm more concerned of my Girlfriend's reaction when I tell her than I am of my relatives since they already said their peace.

[David77]

Atlantis Buff,
I am curious. Only if you care to, please give us a clue as to why you could not visit Cairo or China from your home in a Nudist Resort.

[Outlaw]

In reply to Cyndiann,I used to live in San Diego County, Calif. there are a couple of c/o resorts there--Swallows near El Cajon & De Anza Springs in Jacumba about 75 miles from San Diego. Swallows was as you described--small with mobile homes close together. De Anza Springs, on the other hand, has extremely large lots and wide open spaces being situated on 500 acres at 2600' elevation. Are most of the resorts in Florida as you describe? If so, I certainly wouldn't like to live in any situation where all I have to do to borrow a cup of sugar from my neighbor is to reach out my window to theirs to get it.

Have a fun day,

Mike

[David77]

On the other hand, is this "closeness" in living at nudist resorts much different from many of our suburban communites? I live in a nice ranch style brick house built in 1964, in a typical suburban community and the neighbor's walk between our houses is only about four or five feet away from my bedroom window. I can hear everything they say as they pass on their walkway, and what is worse, I can hear their dog bark practically under my bedroom window, about six feet away.

Many of the nice new houses they are building have small lot spaces between homes. However, in the back yard and front yard there is rather adequate space. Unfortunately this "squeeze" is so, because the builder wants to make as much out of his space as he can, so that there is more profit for him, and they do sell. I imagine that if we all had the money, we would buy houses with very large lots, but it is not to be for most of us.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Big Mac:
In reply to Cyndiann,I used to live in San Diego County, Calif. there are a couple of c/o resorts there--Swallows near El Cajon & De Anza Springs in Jacumba about 75 miles from San Diego. Swallows was as you described--small with mobile homes close together. De Anza Springs, on the other hand, has extremely large lots and wide open spaces being situated on 500 acres at 2600' elevation. Are most of the resorts in Florida as you describe? If so, I certainly wouldn't like to live in any situation where all I have to do to borrow a cup of sugar from my neighbor is to reach out my window to theirs to get it.

Have a fun day,

Mike <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Most of the ones with mobile homes and travel trailers are like that. Even Paradise with their townhouses, you may not hear every move but the gossip is still there and everyone sees who comes and goes at your house.

Any time you squeeze people together in a tight location it manifests itself in negative ways.

[RalphVa]

I voted that I would, but spouse wouldn't. Don't think I'd want to LIVE there but have it as a 2nd home. Just be nice every now and then to get together with others who go naked. Only ones near here are about 3 hours' drive away.

Otherwise, I'm in the same position as shaybare (interesting: he's an okie; I'm an ex-okie; parents still there). I can go naked about my place and even took my usual nude hike yesterday, as it was sunny but only about 25. Had my ski parka draped with its sleeves over my shoulder or carried it. Saw my neighbor across the creek just before I was about to make my turn to go uphill. Don't know how long she was walking parallel to the creek (with her head down; he won't talk either).

Ralph

[Nude in the North]

Taking into consideration the words (If circumstances and money were right) I answered Yes.
Any reasons I can think of Not to move there are covered under that phrase. So that only leaves a yes vote for me.
Personally I'd rather it be a wide open spaces type of place, or atleast more like a regular suburban neighborhood.

Steve

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Atlantis Buff:

For instance, I would love to visit Egypt and see Cairo for myself. Or visit Jordan and see Petra.
Or even China and see the Shaolin Monks. Maybe even India. No. I can't live in a Nudist resort and live a life like that. There are places I'd like to see. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Why would living at a nudist resort mean you couldn't travel? That makes no sense to me. What am I missing?

-Mark

David and Mark,

I was going to ask that question, but you both beat me to it. I can't understand why living in a nudist resort would prevent anyone from traveling wherever they want. /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[asianaturist]

I'd love to live at a nudist resort, if the climate is right (think Southern California) and if there is some water nearby, like a real beach, or a lake.

One of my dreams would actually be to run a resort or clothes-optional hostel of my own.

I now live in a 12-story apartment block, so the fact that there are other people nearby wouldn't bother me. Unless they're loud party types who don't respect their neighbors' right to sleep.

[fred950]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
I voted no. I have seen what happens when you do live inside a resort. You are right up against your neighbors, especially if you are in a travel trailer or mobile home. You hear everything and everyone else knows everything you do.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And just how is that any differant from older 'hoods in just about any other good sized city? Or, for that matter, apartment buildings, condos and townhouses? As far as noise is concerned, I take my hearing aid out and I'm in my own little (and quiet) world.

While I would be there in a heartbeat, a team of wild horses couldn't drag Mary up there. Darn!!!

[David77]

Some of my neighbors in this suburban neighborhood look out the window when they hear a car door slam, to see who comes and goes, and to see who is visiting which neighbor.

The only way a "lover" can get out of this neighborhood undetected, is if he waits until about 3AM to crawl out of her nice warm bed to get into his car to go home, while supposedly everyone else is sleeping soundly.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by fred950:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
I voted no. I have seen what happens when you do live inside a resort. You are right up against your neighbors, especially if you are in a travel trailer or mobile home. You hear everything and everyone else knows everything you do.
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>And just how is that any differant from older 'hoods in just about any other good sized city? Or, for that matter, apartment buildings, condos and townhouses? As far as noise is concerned, I take my hearing aid out and I'm in my own little (and quiet) world.

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It isn't different than living in an apartment in many ways and I've always found someplace other than a jampacked apartment complex to live.

That is the whole point!

[splitfeather]

As my wife and I live in a nudist park, I vote yes.
we joined a club in Oregon a number of years ago and thought if the opportunity arose we would by a site. Well, due to a job change and a few months of winter time in Arizona in the nude,we come back to Oregon where we own a home with lots of privacy. We stopped at the club before going home and a site was for sale so we bought it and moved right in. Still own a home but like the club so well we are selling the house.
Sure it has it's draw backs but the pros outweigh the cons. Good friends,activitys,hot tub,covered pool in the winter. It's quiet(in the winter) and lots of fun all summer. Best part of course is that we go nude as much as we want where ever we want. So I suppose it all depends on what a person wants in life.

Tom in "Rainy Oregon"

[MikeJB]

I would live in a nudist resort just because I like to be nude all the time and dont want a bunch of prudish religious extremeists telling me I have to cover myself up and feel ashamed or at least look that way when i walk out the door and personally ive lived places that are crowded and loud and Id like to live in a small home as long as ive got everything I need there and I sleep pretty soundly anyways. I would just like the fact I could go outside and do almost anything I want to nude. My big concern is, dont you think that living in some seperate community or sub-culture is bad because we are seperated from "normal" society and it makes people outside think we are bad because we seperate ourselves to be and live nude and thus they think that what we do is something bad. Shouldnt we try to gain society's acceptance so we can live nude with them instead of seperated from them? Id only live in a nudist resort if that was my only option to be able to be nude almost 24/7.

[Bob S.]

I don't think I would want to live in a nudist park. It would be too much like a gated community where they have all those rules. Also, there would also be the aspect of not actually outright owning any piece of land. You are just renting the piece of land and can be homeless if you violate any rules.

I would much prefer to live on a couple of acres of land far enough from the main road and neighbors that nudity would be possible anywhere. Being close to a park would also be good.

Bob S.

[florida-david]

I agree with Bob S. i voted no. too many rules, too seperate from society. i could handle living in a resort when retired and if i travelled in an rv 6 months out of the year. i would still want at least 1/2 acre with a garage/workshop and a solid house (not a trailer)

[Outlaw]

Hi--

Quoted by Cyndiann..
"Any time you squeeze people together in a tight location it manifests itself in negative ways."

My ex and I used to have a couple of large snakes and we raised rats to feed the snakes. We started with one breeding pair in a 3' x5' 3' wire cage. All was well for about six to nine months. Unfortunately, the rats outbred the snakes eating capacity and fights amongst the adult rats were constant and they resorted to cannibalism. From this I learned everything I need to know about overpopulation. i.e.-Too many rats in a cage. Overcrowding is DEADLY to a good neighborhood.

Right now I live on five acres in southeast Arizona and when I moved here in 1996 I was able to live a nude lifestyle. No neighbors and empty acreage all around me. Now, since I moved in I am surrounded by houses and not one neighbor who appreciates my ex-lifestyle. What a bummer!

Have a fun day!

Mike

P.S. Check out www.DeAnzasprings.com. (http://www.DeAnzasprings.com.) There is a aerial view of the layout.

M

I don't need a yard since I don't like doing yard work due to allergies. I've also never liked sitting out in my yard since I can't do it nude. At the resort I will have plenty of room to enjoy the sun or the shade, and to ride my bicycle nude in warm weather.

I wasn't able to get hold of the resort owner over the weekend. It almost makes me think he's avoiding me. I keep leaving messages that don't get answered.

The trailer will be mostly for just sleeping and eating. It has a decent sized living room, big enough for a sofa and two chairs. There's a built-in TV cabinet and lots of closets and shelves of storage. There's a big closet in the bedroom. What I don't need for clothes I can use for storage. There's a shed, and there's a porch big enough to sit on. The only thing I won't have besides a garage (I don't have one now) are a washer and dryer. My house has a laundry room. When it's not warm enough to be outside, I can enjoy the clubhouse. I'm a country boy at heart, although I grew up mostly in the city. I would love to have a few acres except for having to take care of it, or pay someone to do it. I have to pay my neighbor to cut my grass since I can't do it.

True, I will never own the property my trailer is on, but then I would have never actually owned this house even if I had stayed here long enough to pay it off in about 6 or 7 years. Try not paying your property taxes and see how much you own it. I know a lady at work who buys houses that people lose because of not paying their property taxes. She bought one house for $200 and another for $1,500! She's in the process of buying another for back taxes.

So far more than half have said they would live in a resort, and only 6 said "No". I had to vote "I plan on it" since I'm not there yet, but hopefully I will be this week. My TV satellite dish will be installed Wednesday. If I'm not going to be there, I will have to postpone that until I am. When I told the guy on the phone that it's a nudist resort, he laughed and said "The satellite dish isn't bashful."

Big Mac,

When I read that you were raising "rats" to feed the snakes, I thought at first it said "cats" and had to read it again to see if I read it correctly. I apologize to you cat lovers for my poor eyesight, or my wicked mind; I'm not sure which. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Trailscout]

Assuming that you live in a secluded rural area just a short drive from the nudist resort, you would not miss out on the social activities of the nearby resort, nor would you lack privacy for being nude at home and in your yard.

But having your own space you would gain privacy, quiet when you want it, and as Cyndiann suggests, more house for the money.

[flbound]

It was very informative to read the postings in this section of the message board. My husband and I have been home nudists for more years than we care to count. We view our lifestyle as valid as that lived by our "textile" relatives and friends--so, we remain nude no matter who visits us. If anyone has objections, they no longer have to be guests in our home. In any case, we are thinking of buying a residence at a nudist resort in Florida, such as Como, the Cove or Caliente. Could anyone provide us with a comprehensive list of pros and cons of residing in a nudist resort? What costs would we incur? How overpriced are the mobile homes?

[nudewheelchairTodd]

Big max De Anza is great I love the area and the people.

I live in Turtle Lake Resort in Michigan, but I know nothing about Florida. I wish I could afford two homes. Then I would live here in the spring and summer and in Florida in the fall and winter. I've had to suffer a few inconveniences living here, but it's worth it to me. Some resorts are probably more modern and better equipped. I had to go where I could afford it. Besides, my grandkids are here, and I didn't want to leave them. Some only have trailers or mobile homes. Some have houses, townhouses and/or condos. You would have to check with the resort you're interested in and ask what is available.

As for pros and cons, that would depend on the resort and how equipped it is. Some have mail delivery and some don't. I have to have a PO Box in the nearest town, but that's a minor inconvenience to me--except that I can't buy mail order or order on the Internet since some places won't deliver to a PO Box.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
I have to have a PO Box in the nearest town, but that's a minor inconvenience to me--except that I can't buy mail order ot on the Internet since some places won't deliver to a PO Box. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>You could have anything shipped to a UPS store (formerly Mailboxes Etc.) for you to pick up at your leisure -the nearest locations are in Battle Creek and Coldwater. Or you could see if TLR would allow you to have packages shipped to the office -as a resident I suspect they would.

-Mark

Mark,

My phone company sent me a disk for their Internet service to the office here, and I was told not to let it happen again. They don't want residents' mail delivered there. They would like it even less if packages starting arriving.

[Rex]

I lived in a caravan [trailer] park, in England, well over 40 years ago.
The park, [non-nudist], was set out in named streets, like a village.
We were in a rural situation, but only 8 miles from a large city.
The postal authorities would not give us a proper service, but just dumped all the mail in an open box, near the entrance.
As you would expect, items went missing, from time to time.
I got up a petition, and gave it to the local postmaster. He tore it up, in front of a shop full of customers, and threw it on the floor.
I got an appointment with the head postmaster, in the nearby city, and he showed me the antiquated regulations, which got them off the hook.
I decided to take things into my own hands, and waged a very cunning, and undoubtedly illegal, campaign.
I cost the postal authorities a lot of money, a lot of inconvenience, and a lot of embarrassment.
No doubt Stu would say he would have torn me apart, in court.
This didn't happen. After 6 months, I got an official letter of apology, from the Assistant Postmaster General, with a promise of individual mail deliveries, for everyone who had a numbered mail box outside their caravan.
And that's what happened.
I must have been a cheeky young guy, in those days.

[Naturist Mark]

Rex, I don't believe the people at TLR were being difficult. Strictly speaking people are permitted to camp or stay at their cottages in the campground for as long as they like, but it isn't zoned for permanent residences, therefore they can't receive direct mail, and having mail sent to them via the office might be asking for trouble. They are just looking out for the members.

I had just thought they might be willing to accomodate package delivery via UPS (not the mail).

-Mark

[Trailscout]

I don't see why Fedex or UPS could not deliver the package right to Jon-Marc's trailer door. If that's not possible, then the UPS store in Battle Creek, as NaturistMark described, would be the next best place for mailorder.

[flbound]

Thank you for your replies--never even considered mail and other deliveries. How about some of the other issues--coop, overpriced mobile homes, etc.?

It's true that we are only legally supposed to live here no more than 180 days per year, but I was told that no one here will be counting the days. Hopefully no one I need to worry about will read this. However, that does prevent us from having mail delivery here--except for the office. I could ask if there would be any problem with having UPS deliver right to my trailer. However, some places send by mail and not UPS. If the resort is re-zoned or whatever so that they can build condos, maybe mail delivery will then be possible.

[Rex]

When I posted about my battle with the English postal authorities, about 45 years ago, it never occured to me that you did not have official permanent residency.
I just thought, that's the situation I was in.
So it's a case of the law saying one thing, but everyone doing something else, and no repercussions.

Hopefully there won't be any repercussions.

[MikeJB]

Yeah but its legal to be nude on the resort and following a few stupid rules is better than having to go everywhere and be clothed most of the time. All ya gotta do is follow the rules and youre fine, im sure its not that hard to do.

[MikeJB]

They really should let people live there in permanent residencies if they wanted to, then these people wouldnt have to live in regular society at all if they didnt want to and thus wouldnt ever have to wear any clothes. Its not like that many people would actually want to do that so im sure it wouldnt be that difficult and if you really did want to go out into society you could just get dressed and go drive out somewhere.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by MikeJB:
Yeah but its legal to be nude on the resort and following a few stupid rules is better than having to go everywhere and be clothed most of the time. All ya gotta do is follow the rules and youre fine, im sure its not that hard to do. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Mike,

At my age, 58 next month, and having spent 7 years in the Air Force, I'm used to living by other people's rules and being inconvenienced, and not having everything my way. It's all part of growing up into maturity--learning to take the bad with the good.

In my case now, the good far outweighs the bad--a few rules I don't agree with, and a few inconveniences. I can be nude with my windows uncovered, and no one cares. I can walk outside nude, and no one cares. During those rare days when it actually reaches the 40's F, I drive to the clubhouse in just a sweatshirt, and no one cares. When it gets warm, I will ride my bicycle to the clubhouse--totally nude, and no one will care. When I'm riding my bicycle nude, I pass nude people who are out walking, and no one cares. We greet one another just as if we're clothed, and no one cares that we're nude. No one is shocked, embarrassed, tramatized, or offended.

Ok, so I have to heat and cook with propane instead of natural gas; so I had to wait two weeks to get a phone line into my trailer; so I have to abide by the clubhouse rules and can't use it any time I want; so I can't be as warm in this trailer as I was in my house; I can be NUDE here any time, anywhere, and NO ONE cares! If it's not warm enough to be totally nude, I wear just a sweatshirt, and I'm comfortable. There's no danger of anyone calling the police about the "naked man in his house". "He's got his windows uncovered! What if my children see him? Think of the harm it could cause them!" That won't happen here because these people know there's nothing obscene about the human body. After all, they will be nude too!

[flbound]

My husband and I have been home nudists for more years than we care to count. We are considering retirement and buying a residence at a nudist resort in Florida, such as Como, the Cove or Caliente. Could anyone who lives in a nudist resort (or people who ultimately rejected full-time residence) provide us with a comprehensive list of pros and cons of residing in a nudist resort? What costs would we incur? How overpriced are the mobile homes?

[noodtoonist]

i would prefer to live at a nudist resort rather than a clothing optional one (weather notwithstanding!). also, i'd prefer one that didn't throw big parties for every event on the calendar, thereby causing the influx of hundreds of strangers, etc, etc. what can i say? i like my peace and privacy...
i notice that locals at resorts tend to keep to themselves.

[stlphun]

Absolutely - and I'll tell you which one: Paradise Lakes! I LOVE it there!

[MikeJB]

Yeah well thats what I meant, it seems that the good things of a nudist resort far outweigh the bad ones and it seems like it would be fun and nudist people seem alot more open and friendly than most textile ones do and if ive got all I need and can be nude then I wouldnt really care about alot of the bad things about any nudist resort.

I think there was a time--probably before my time) that when someone moved into a neighborhood, neighbors would come by and welcome them, and even bring food. That doesn't happen any more, not even in a nudist resort. Of course, I shouldn't judge all resorts by this one. People here keep to themselves. I sometimes get into some good conversations in the hot tub when there's someone there. One guy today seemed to love to talk--and talk--and talk. Since I'm not much of a conversationalist, I appreciate someone who can keep a conversation going all by himself. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[melissastarr]

On first thought, I'd LOVE to live at a nudist resort. The thought of being able to be nude pretty much anytime I want, without worrying about offending neighbors, with a pool/ hot tub nearby, and with many nudist friends visiting frequently is a wonderful thought. But then I think of my close friends and family who aren't nudists and I realize that it would be rather uncomfortable for them to visit me if I lived in a nude resort. So I think I'd choose to live very, very close to a nude resort but not in it. Maybe this thought will change in time, though. Who knows?

Melissa

[NudeAl]

Ditto Melissa,
I was thinking this exact thing as I ws comming home today from a nude walk in the woods. I would be in heaven if I could live in a nudist resort, but, my wife would have some issues with it.

My family would not have to big a problem with it. They live 500 miles away and they know about my being a nudist and haven't ever made a big deal about it. But my wife and her circle of friends would. Also I have to think of the future inlaws as my son is engaged and he and his fiance's family may not be to keen on this matter.

So for me the best option would be to own a nude friendly property close to a nude resort where I was a member. Not there yet, but one day, maybe if I am lucky I will be.

[MikeJB]

Yeah but whats more important to them, you or making sure they dont see nude people? I mean wouldnt it be worth seeing a few naked people just so they could come and see you? Also if theyre really picky about it then you should just go see them and wear like a bikini or something so u could still see them but still feel like youre almost nude. I think thatd be a fair compromise if they couldnt handle seeing a few nude people just to be able to spend time with you. I think the best way to get over nude compulsions is just to be exposed to it, sooner or later you get to the point where seeing nude people doesnt bother you anymore.

Mike,

Again, people make compromises for people they either live with-or want relationships with..

It's funny when I read:

"Also if theyre really picky about it then you should just go see them and wear like a bikini or something so u could still see them but still feel like youre almost nude."

I said that VERY thing to you on Prudes-when you argued how much you wanted to go nude in public-and impose nudity on those not interested. You said wearing something covering your genitals tells people you have "shame" of these parts-yet-here you are advising Al the very same thing..