Posting your Pic.It may go anywhere

[Nudeinbama]

A word of caution to all who might consider posting their picture on this Forum, be aware that it is very easy for someone to take that picture and use it as they please and post it on whatever sort of site they choose. As was apparently done recently to some of my pictures, I'm told they thought I wouldn't mind.Live and Learn. I just hope no real harm comes from it.
Nudeinbama

[Nudeinbama]

A word of caution to all who might consider posting their picture on this Forum, be aware that it is very easy for someone to take that picture and use it as they please and post it on whatever sort of site they choose. As was apparently done recently to some of my pictures, I'm told they thought I wouldn't mind.Live and Learn. I just hope no real harm comes from it.
Nudeinbama

[nudeM]

I agree, 'bama. It is very easy to post your pic anywhere on the web. I guess that is why so many members are reluctant on posting a pic of themselves.

Thanks for the info. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/smoking.gif

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudeinbama:
A word of caution to all who might consider posting their picture on this Forum, be aware that it is very easy for someone to take that picture and use it as they please and post it on whatever sort of site they choose. As was apparently done recently to some of my pictures, I'm told they thought I wouldn't mind.Live and Learn. I just hope no real harm comes from it.
Nudeinbama </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
What made the person think you wouldn't mind? Would have been best to ask first instead of assuming.

I am surprised that INA does not have something to stop people from doing such things with pictures.

Netnude protects its posters by disabling the ability to save photos. No one can do a save as to save photos. Surprise guys at INA have not done that.

[BlobbyBob]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Croydon:Netnude protects its posters by disabling the ability to save photos. No one can do a save as to save photos. Surprise guys at INA have not done that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

There is a key on your keyboard that says 'Print screen' and is an easy way around disabling right-click on a website.

Personally I don't like to share any photos of me online if I can help it. I share the occasional one in communities where more people know me, albeit never nude ones, they are more likely to end up on the 'wrong' sort of sites, I mostly share ones of me, nude or clothed, just with close friends. I'm not really keen on a bunch of strangers seeing me.

[FireProf]

The thought just occurred to me that my sand covered naked butt is all over the internet!!!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[D-TX]

The thought just occurred to me that my sand covered naked butt is all over the internet!!!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/shocked.gif

http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

Scratching the phosphors off the inside of monitors worldwide! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif

[Nudeinbama]

Well, at least it remains a real mystery of who you are,Not in my case, unlss that side is well known, Ha.
Nudeinbama

[luvnaturism]

It's a good idea to remember that anything you post to the internet lives forever, and can go anywhere and be seen by anyone. I once made the mistake of posting comments under my real name that came back to bite me years later.

[Nudeinbama]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm surprised CFI would tell you they thought you wouldn't mind. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>.
No CFI had nothing to do or say of this mater. It was an individual,acting on his own behalf, just wanted to keep that straight.
Nudeinbama

[Fuzzy Nuts]

I'm glad I posted someone else's photo

[Unwired]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hairyballs:
I'm glad I posted someone else's photo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Is that right?

[NakedGary]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">quote:
Originally posted by Croydon:Netnude protects its posters by disabling the ability to save photos. No one can do a save as to save photos. Surprise guys at INA have not done that. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Even if a site such as NetNude inhibits "Right Click & Save photograph as..." it can be copied, saved, printed by many commerical programs just for that purpose at the click of a key sequence or hot key of anything you see on the screen [such as this post window, image or screen.

Capture Pro
Screen Capture
Quick screen capture
Easy screen Capture
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link to screen capture programs by Google (http://www.google.com/search?q=screen%20and%20image%20capture%20programs )

[Naturist Mark]

You never know where your pics can end up:
Louisville Paper Gets Disc With 232 Photos of Nude National Guard Women (http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003188197)

Doesn't sound like "nudist photos", but I doubt they are likely to make the distinction.

-Mark

[NakedGary]

NetNude

Photo Album Canada, 1st picture

using "CapturePro Professional"

So CFI, NetNude or any site doesn't have the capability to prohibit lifiting or capturing anything you see on the screen.

F.Y.I.

[D-TX]

Using the Opera (http://www.opera.com) Browser, I can select, on a site-by-site basis, whether Right-Clicks get passed to the JavaScript or not.

Take Care & Surf (the Web) Bare,
David

[NakedGary]

I read recently read an article about a lady who purchased a compact flash card at Best Buy & was shocked upon insertion to see the auto slide show showing nude and porno shots of someone who returned a flash card. Best Buy resold it without checking the card, contents, or deleting the files.

LOL

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by D-TX:
Scratching the phosphors off the inside of monitors worldwide! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/cool4.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Works just like a virus!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[Fuzzy Nuts]

Unwired - Of course I was kidding - lighten up

[FireProf]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hairyballs:
Unwired - Of course I was kidding - lighten up </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I knew you were kidding!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/eusa_dance.gif


Heck.......if I were gonna use someone else's photo, I'd be sure to pick a better butt!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/laugh.gif

[nudenwv]

well - have thought about this way back when. it bothered my wife more than me. being i'm retired and profession is not an issue i don't think about it much. would really like to claim royalties tho! thanks for the heads up!! hey wait a minute!! maybe that's why i can't even get a job at a nudist resort! now that's pretty bad!! http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/rolleyes2.gif

[NakedGary]

maliakei

To answer your question; Unless you would have contacted administration, the image would have stayed on the Pictures of freedom or where it was.

When a member uploads or sends CFI images of others, the TOS says:

“Important note: Make sure you have the copyrights to the photos you send and you have permission from the person(s) who are recognizable in the photo(s). Use this photo release form: http://www.clothesfree.com/photorelease.doc. People under 18 are not allowed to post nude photos of themselves or others without written parental consent."

Unless the person puts down his actual or real name on the registration or initial Profile,[Not Required] the only thing required is a real and actual email address for a account or to be registered. The TOS does also says false information, DOB, etc. is also a violation of the TOS. If something legal or with a police inquire or court order comes up then the account email address would be the only identifying part of a member required information that would be turned over, the authorities would have to seek further contact or identity with the ISP or Service provider for that email address. The private Membership and account information is never given out to anyone, but CFI reserves the right to reveal your identity (or whatever information we know about you) to law enforcement or to relevant authorities in the event of legal action arising from any message posted by you.

You would have to contact corky or administration, but I believe whoever sent your picture without permission or release has been banned, or the IP address from uploading any media in the future, and I’m not sure as to the status of the CFI or Forum member status of that person.
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[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hairyballs:
I'm glad I posted someone else's photo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably a good choice. However, this picture is very nice and I shall always picture you this way. As it isn't you, I will free to lust after it. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif

[Liam]

Nice maple leaf Gary!

[Ken Palmer]

Hey Malialei, this sounds pretty frightening and indeed cowardly. To think someone would do that to anyone without their permission. I certainly hope you do find the culprit and make a good example out of him or them.

Ken Palmer


<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by maliakei:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nudeinbama:
"A word of caution to all who might consider posting their picture on this Forum..."
"...I'm told they thought I wouldn't mind..."

I agree and am sorry to hear this happened to you. There has got to be a better way of going about having photos posted. I'm surprised CFI would tell you they thought you wouldn't mind. Hopefully you can talk to one of the moderators and get this straightened out.

Not too long ago I found out my picture was posted on CFI by someone who lied on the consent agreement stating the 'Okay' by the subject to post. Indeed not! In fact, I didn't even know my photo was posted on CFI until a friend of mine emailed me telling me how nice it was to see my picture! At least one of the CFI moderators immediately took it off the site after I complained, however, I was told by CFI the person who submitted it REFUSED to give CFI his real name! Not that there was anything wrong or explicit about the photo, it's just that it was posted on the site without my knowledge. So, that goes to show you how easy it is for anyone to just click 'Yes' on the online consent form. Guess it's just too much trouble to obtain additional proof, i.e. signatures or whatever.

In regards to the sneaky person who knows he did wrong, he's a coward hiding undercover But not for long.. We've got a hunch who he is. It's just a matter of finding him. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[Pants off]

Really not too bothered by this as my full name is not shown and only my arse is on view in my avatar - people can post this where they like if they so wish (although it is unlikely that anyone will want to do this!)

[John Spooner]

I saw an example of this matter recently. Most of us would remember "querty", the bloke from Canada who placed two excellent albums on this group, his latest one was with his best mate taken on a camping trip a few months ago.
Recently I came across quite a few of his photos on Flickr, they had been stolen by a third party and used as his own.
It also was concerning that many of them had been posted by that third party to gay and porn groups on Flickr. They obviously had been sourced from "Clothesfree" and used by the third party for their own purposes.
In my own personal case, I feel sure no-one would want to steal any pics of me, there is nothing handsome or photogenic about me at all.
Regards. John S.

[Fuzzy Nuts]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Liam:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hairyballs:
I'm glad I posted someone else's photo </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Probably a good choice. However, this picture is very nice and I shall always picture you this way. As it isn't you, I will free to lust after it. http://oakhurstonline.com/icon/wink3.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Thank you very much, LIAM, but now I suppose I have to go to the porno sites to find a good male rear view so you can see my *** and then post it as my new avatar. lol

[NakedGary]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I'm curious...
How are the majority of the signed forms usually received by CFI? Via US/Int'l Mail, emailed, scanned w/signature(s)? CFI would have a signed copy if needed for future reference? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

maliakei

I have never discussed with administration on how many actually send by various methods the referenced or a standard photo release form signed on pictures of others submitted to CFI or the Forums. There is a couple of other ways one may transmit a signed release form. I think the two lines of signature is if the image is of a couple [married or not] both can sign the form.

USPS Postal Mail/Carrier UPS/FedEx etc.

Email
Scanned or image .jpg .Tif Doc or PDF files
E-Fax

Facsimile/Fax machine transmission via Phone/land line.

Via WebCam/Conference Video/Still.

WiFi/Wireless via internet from on site via camera/flash media image file attachments.

I’m under the assumption that the TOS infers that the submitter of photographs, images, or media to CFI taken of others is required, & they agree that they have prior permission AND/OR submits a signed photo release of images submitted of others.

This way, if something comes up on a submitted photo as in your case, CFI reverts back to the member/user who submitted the media as the responsible person who agreed they have permission and/or release of others in the photograph or images, or can explain where the source or where the images came from.

The ease of digital copying, lifting, and pasting off the net of others pictures, or media, makes the copyright, release, and permission a gray area. Once out in the World Wide Web or published images, video, or any media is available almost instantly to millions at the click of a mouse or key stroke, and pass on and on to others for various purposes and reasons legal or not.

Images nude or not in public areas, at the beach, or any Federal/State/County/City/Village do not require permission, photo release, to take or publish legally, but its very wise thing to do if you want to keep your face, body, and photographic equipment, and media intact especially if of others nude.

Private land or property is another issue so one must legally get permission to photograph and be on that property, so releases and permission to publish are usually required. Nudist facilities that allow members to register cameras have strict regulations and requirements on other than personal, family, and friends, or general scenery photography.

Once out on the net your nude images may show up anywhere or most likely on non nudist or naturist sites which are next to impossible to track or find contact information, site owners, or webmasters who can delete your images that have been used inappropriately or otherwise. Even if your lucky enough to get your image removed it still will be in archives and never be able to be removed.

There are many standard and free Photo Release forms available on the net for various purposes as this Google link indicates:

Link to Google search "Photo Release Forms" (http://www.google.com/search?q=Photo%20Release%20Forms)
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[Liam]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by hairyballs:
Thank you very much, LIAM, but now I suppose I have to go to the porno sites to find a good male rear view so you can see my *** and then post it as my new avatar. lol </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ha! Good comeback! <giggle>

Liam

[NakedGary]

hairyhomer

At that link http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_files/photo_albums...646389130D.jpg.thumb (http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_files/photo_albums/2/5/7/2570084534/3670084534_B5B08E32645C6123909FB0646389130D.jpg.th umb)

I get a thumbnail 133 x 100 pixel 13.2Kb file/picture of a tunnel [not of the full image as stated in the text on properties], & I can see your avatar as the poster under your user name and in your profile.

What operating system and Internet browser are you using?

Have you shut off or rebooted your system since this occured and its the same?

Are you experiencing this same problem on other web sites with pictures, images, graphics, or avatars?

Sounds as if its a internet browser problem on your end. Have you recently updated or gone to another version of your browser?

This line:

"Size of File: Unknown (not cached)"

Is a clue as to what's going on as the next line [alternate text] relates to the full image size in pixels and the full image file size.

Next line:

"Alternate text: The End of the Tunnel 145.9 KB 800 X 598 Near the Anglican Cathedral in Liverpool"

Link/Thumbnail image attached below \/:

[Nudeinbama]

And the stupid thing about the fellow who stole my pictures to post elsewhere, he keeps E-mailing me and asking me why I'm so upset that he did so. He's putting the blame on me, as though I had done something wrong or made the pictures "up for grabs", since I posted them here on this naturist forum. So I guess they are up for grabs, once you post here, but he is too moral-less or contious-free to realize the wrong he has done in stealing and using for his own gain or whatever.I'm sure he'll read this, but I'm tired of responding to him directly and being blamed for his sharing what was meant to be private to this forum.The pictures going where they did is not so much the issue, with me as just the principal of his wrong-doings.
Nudeinbama

[Naturist4Ever]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by NakedGary:
“Important note: Make sure you have the copyrights to the photos you send and you have permission from the person(s) who are recognizable in the photo(s). Use this photo release form: http://www.clothesfree.com/photorelease.doc </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

But do you need to submit a signed copy of the release form???? Come'on: every cfi member who has trawled the cff picture gallery knows that there are many images in there that are copyrighted but still circulate freely, take for example all the images that are scanned directly from magazines (I do recognise quite a few from original H&E). Many images are also known to appear on other sites (of course it could be that they were copied from cfi instead of brought in).

Of course, even if a photo is copyrighted it doesn't mean that it will stay within the walls of cfi. Quite to the contrary, cfi encourages you to distribute the images as long as logo stays in place (but many images don't have a logo, and it is easy to cut it off just as well). Digital certification and build-in copy protection of images is still some way off, if it ever gets there...

NB, as others pointed out, it is pretty simple to circumvent any javascript protection, almost everyone knows this. The only thing that as far as I know doesn't allow direct copying is sites that use flash (also known as shockwave/macromedia etc), but of course you can also grab an image directly from the screen if you are really desperate. Usually that's too much work so that stops people.

[NakedGary]

Naturist4Ever

The quote you reference is directly out of the CFI/CFF TOS Terms of Service agreement. [The last multi-line paragraph of the TOS.]

Your question: "But do you need to submit a signed copy of the release form????" Would have to be answered by CFI administration.

Here is the complete paragraph from the TOS:

"Important note: Make sure you have the copyrights to the photos you send and you have permission from the person(s) who are recognizable in the photo(s). Use this photo release form: http://www.clothesfree.com/photorelease.doc. People under 18 are not allowed to post nude photos of themselves or others without written parental consent. This rule is similar to the rule at most nudist resorts that require written parental consent before minors can visit the club with another family. Parents can contact us toll free: 877-261-6184 or 949-709-3210 or CFI, PO Box 1096, Oakhurst, CA 93644. If you are in a photo and want it taken down, let us know and we will take it down immediately. You can send your photos through the mail to: CFI, PO Box 1096, Oakhurst, CA 93644 USA. We will scan them and send them back. You can now upload photos instantly in the ClothesFree Forums."

In the USA, almost everything created privately and originally after April 1, 1989 is copyrighted and protected whether it has a notice or not. [The © mark]

Artist, writers, photographers that derive their income, or profit from their intellectual property of value usually do register and use copyright protection for legal purposes incase of infringement by others who do so with the intent of making money on someone else’s intellectual property.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Digital certification and build-in copy protection of images is still some way off, if it ever gets there... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Digital watermarking, and digital copying or republishing technologies are in-place, encrypted, and used on high value original works, art, photographs. It’s very expensive, but effective to the point of notifying the owner when works are copied and published on the net digitally anywhere in the world.

[Nudeinbama]

How far can you guys go off the original topic?
Nudeinbama

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">How far can you guys go off the original topic? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


Wooo Hoooo!!!!

The Tigers Won!

-Mark

[NakedGary]

Nudeinbama

Sorry about that. I answered a Question "hairyhomer" asked in here and I guess he deleted his question/post and answer from this topic/thread. He also posted the Question in "Off Topic Miscellaneous" "Open Conversation" "Photographs" Photo Album, Comments.

Otherwise most of the posts are on topic of copying, posting others pictures on other sites without permission, copyright etc. [except for the kidding around.]
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[Nudeinbama]

NakedGary, yes you are right and I probaly shouldn't have been so quick to jump the present conversation, but I just really wanted to stress the fact that there are persons in this forum not as worthy of the trust they get as would be expected of them, and that your pictures posted here are not safe to remain only here, so realize that if and when posting pic's.
Nudeinbama