nudism and piercings

[luvmuscle22]

i have a genital piercing, and i am worried about what other nudists will think of me when the clothes come off. i am 24 years old, and our generation has brought piercings to the mainstream. i wanna know what you younger nudists think, and would you think differently of a person with a genital piercing or accept them as a nudist and not a freak. any comments?

[luvmuscle22]

i have a genital piercing, and i am worried about what other nudists will think of me when the clothes come off. i am 24 years old, and our generation has brought piercings to the mainstream. i wanna know what you younger nudists think, and would you think differently of a person with a genital piercing or accept them as a nudist and not a freak. any comments?

[LEAVE ME ALONE]

Hey Dude,

I am 21/m and I have nipple rings and a genital piercing (I had to take it out due to restoring my foreksin)...But I think it's totally cool dude...I acutally think it adds some flavor to the nude body, like ornaments do to a Christmas Tree...So Rock On Dude!!!

J

ForBiDDenKid21@aol.com

[greensunshine]

Ok, Guys here is my 2-bits on this subject.

When I meet a guy who happens to single and "Good Looking" and notice that he has a piercing in his penis, I am automatically turned off by his decision to do something barbaric...just the thoughts having an intimate relationship with someone with an earring in his penis or nipples is enough to turn me totally off sexually.

I have also heard the same comments from some of my male friends who too are turned off by either other males who are gay and opt to have parts of their body pierced and other male friends who are straight as an arrow and meet a good looking female with piercings in places other than her ears... /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif

I would like to add, I have no objections to dating guys who have their ears pierced...in fact I find it more of a turn on than turn off /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Female, Mormon, and a Nudist /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[NudistPa]

At Sandy Hook Ive seen many guys and girls with peircing on their gentials..its becoming common place now so nothing to worry about.

yahoo: phillydude32

[Jochanaan]

I'm not of the younger generation, but I am somewhat new to nudism.

If we accept pierced ears, it is logically inconsistent not to accept piercings in other parts of the body. But there is beauty in plainness and naturalness, even in hairstyles. I myself have not pierced and do not shave any part of my body, although I do get my hair and beard trimmed occasionally. "I yam what I yam, and that's all what I yam."

[luvmuscle22]

well, thanks for the replies. if you had to pick me out of a line up you would never know it was me that had the piercing. i just got it for fun, and i am straight - contrary to the belief that only gay men get their penis' pierced. i am going to go to sandy hook this summer and i am glad to know that not everyone would be disgusted. stay nude.

[Rex]

Hi luvmuscle 22,
I'm 69, not pierced and never wanted to be, but I have plenty of friends who are, and it doesn't bother me one little bit.
Following on from Jochanaan's reasoning, if genital piercing had been commonplace for centuries, and ear piercing was comparatively new, people seeing it may say, "Aaarhhh, what do you want to do THAT for?"
Greensunshine is right, of course, it may lose you some prospective love partners, but that's life, we're all different.

[namedun]

Shudder, I don't mind other ppl that have peircings, but I can't imagine why ppl peirce down there. It must hurt alot, and don't you lose sensitivity!?

[florida-david]

namedun - although i tend to want my body to stay natural, i think part of the idea of a genital piercing is that is feels good to have the piercing down there. personally, piercings would turn me off for a potential love-partner, but since i have my life-long partner already, piercings do not bother me in my friends (they will bother me BIGTIME if my kids get them). it does annoy me when friends have piercings in their face or tongue; if you are a friend of mine and have piercings in unusual locations that are readily visible, i think you should be ready to be picked on by me!!!

I've adopted the motto "To each their own". I don't particularly like to see a body covered with tattoos or piercings, but it's their body to do with as they see fit. Also, I can look away if I don't like it.

I've bitten my tongue enough times to know it HURTS! I can't imagine having a hole drilled through it! I'm not into pain. I find it impossible to believe that it doesn't hurt as some people have said, and I'm too chicken to want to find out for myself. Cluck! Cluck!

[Dude in Nor Cal]

luvmuscle and others,

I'm 22, currently no piercings but I once had my tongue pierced- I liked it a lot but had professional reasons for taking it out. I just got my 2nd and 3rd tats, #'s 4 and 5 are desitned for my upper leg, not readily visible unless I'm nude. I'm extremely proud of our generation for doing this, even though my parents weren't particularly happy with my decisions! /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

I wouldn't get a prince albert because I bet THEY FREAKING HURT but getting a tattoo kind of hurts too, I'd just be afraid that it might cause some probs down the road. Could be wrong. Luvmuscle and boynewd, congrads, you have guts. What is the deal with foreskin restoration? Is it for anyone who's cut?

[LEAVE ME ALONE]

LOL...Some of you people amaze me wit the things you say...oh well...

Moving on...

(Sometimes it makes you glad that certain people are no longer in your life)...

Everything works out for the good!!!

What is a prince albert? /infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif

[flash]

i have lots of tattoos and piercings..tattoos i have both arms sleeved ,my neck to my belly is done,one on my back and my right leg has a half sleeve..i also have a prince albert 2 gague and a freneum 4 gague. i ve never had any problem at a resort,everyone ive met accepts me like i am ,,isnt that what its all about? so i say go have a good time and dont worry about anything..put the nekkid monday band in the stereo and rock and roll! later shane

[Duneman]

Naturism is "total body acceptance!"

Body jewelry and tattoos are all part of individuals expressing themselves.

[flash]

couldnt have said it better myself ! very well put !..later shane

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duneman:
Naturism is "total body acceptance!"

Body jewelry and tattoos are all part of individuals expressing themselves. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>HUH? Sounds backwards to me. "Naturism" is total natural body acceptance. Tattoos and piercings are man-made, not natural. If you're looking for a word that denotes acceptance of the unnatural, wouldn't it be "unnaturism?"

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by missouriboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duneman:
Naturism is "total body acceptance!"

Body jewelry and tattoos are all part of individuals expressing themselves. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>HUH? Sounds backwards to me. "Naturism" is total natural body acceptance. Tattoos and piercings are man-made, not natural. If you're looking for a word that denotes acceptance of the unnatural, wouldn't it be "unnaturism?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Haircuts and shaving yor face aren't natural either. There is hardly a soul out there that doesn't modify their bodies in some way or another.

By your definition to be a naturist we all have to stop cutting our hair and shaving anything and wearing anti-persperant. That just isn't going to happen to 99% out there. Naturism does not require we go without any jewelry or hats. Geez, next you will be saying that circumcized guys can't be naturists because their penises aren't natural.

[Croydon]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by missouriboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Duneman:
Naturism is "total body acceptance!"

Body jewelry and tattoos are all part of individuals expressing themselves. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>HUH? Sounds backwards to me. "Naturism" is total natural body acceptance. Tattoos and piercings are man-made, not natural. If you're looking for a word that denotes acceptance of the unnatural, wouldn't it be "unnaturism?" <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>The idea of body acceptance has no clear cut definition. One person's idea of body acceptance is different from another. Some believe that body acceptance is accepting whatever body you have. For example: if you are fat, accept that. Others believe that body acceptance is accepting others for who they are.

Personally, I think too many buy into body acceptance thing. The common joke is that nudists are fat, obese and old. Whether it is a stereotype or not, there's some truth. To accept being fat, to me, is quite dangerous. I would like naturist organizations to focus on education nudists about healthy living. It isn't ok to accept being fat. I don't say that we should promote going to gym to bulk up and have these 6pk abs and toned muscles, that is unrealistic. But I do believe that there should be a focus on NOT accepting being fat. I think too many obese people go into nudism believing that they are accepted and use it as excuse to not lose the weight. I could be wrong but I think this holds some truth.

[greensunshine]

I would like to add some more light on why it can be dangerous to have parts of your body pierced, such as the tongue, you run the risk of having the following occuring:

Chronic infection
Prolonged bleeding
Scarring
Hepatitis B and C (which can be fatal)
Tetanus
HIV (although there are no documented cases of this)
Skin allergies to the jewelry that's used
Abscesses or boils (infected cysts that form under your skin at the site of the piercing, which you may have to have drained with needles)
Permanent holes in your nostril or eyebrow
Chipped or broken teeth
Choking from mouth jewelry
A speech impediment


http://kidshealth.org/teen/your_body/skin_stuff/body_piercing_safe.html

Not to mention, for guys in particular, when you need to urinate (this applies to those who have the piercing done through the head of their penis), the freedom of once being able to preform this function standing, is no longer an option unless one enjoys losing controll of being able to control where the flow is aimed, courtesy of now having 2 or more holes that allow the urine to flow through...Yuck /infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif And gals, this too impacts us, who opt to have sexual intercourse with guys who have had this done...now the body fluids are flowing through the additional holes in this head /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

Now for the drawbacks for we females having our genitals pierced...they too impact our ability to be stimulated in the areas we have opted to put a hole there...because tissue that once was alive and flowing with rich blood has been numbed permanently, thus further reducing our abilities to be sexually stimulated in those areas as well.

Thanks but no thanks, I for one enjoy the stimulation that comes from being sexually stimulated in and around my vagina, by my partner /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW /infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif
Female, Mormon and Proud of Both /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[flash]

i have to disagree with the de sensitizing part of what you said. i know several women that have that particular part pierced and to start with it actually hightens sensitivity and stimulation to a sometimes uncontrollable level..granted everyone is different and reacts different to piercing in super sensitive areas such as that but i think for the most part ive never heard a woman say she wished she didnt get it because now she cant get aroused.. and i can still urinate standing up lol its tricky but possible..and there are risks with body piercing as you stated above but for anyone interested in piercing those things happen few and far between..95 % of the time when something goes wrong with a piercing its the wearers fault for not prorerly taking care of it through the healing process.there are some places not as reputible and clean as others and should be avoided for any piercing or tatto work..do some research and check portfolios ,ask around your area about good and bad piercing experiences before you let someone stick a needle in you.. just my 2 cents... be cool and stay nekkid..later shane

"Now for the drawbacks for we females having our genitals pierced...they too impact our ability to be stimulated in the areas we have opted to put a hole there...because tissue that once was alive and flowing with rich blood has been numbed permanently, thus further reducing our abilities to be sexually stimulated in those areas as well."

In the great majority of cases the clitoris isn't what is pierced. The hood is. With the hole in the hood you can suspend jewelry so it rides right on the clitoris and has absolutely no chance of reducing stimulation. If it were to form scar tissue it wouldn't matter and would not affect stimulation. This is also one of the fastest healing piercings and one that has very few complications.

[Naturist Mark]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Croydon:
Personally, I think too many buy into body acceptance thing. The common joke is that nudists are fat, obese and old. Whether it is a stereotype or not, there's some truth. To accept being fat, to me, is quite dangerous. I would like naturist organizations to focus on education nudists about healthy living. It isn't ok to accept being fat. I don't say that we should promote going to gym to bulk up and have these 6pk abs and toned muscles, that is unrealistic. But I do believe that there should be a focus on NOT accepting being fat. I think too many obese people go into nudism believing that they are accepted and use it as excuse to not lose the weight. I could be wrong but I think this holds some truth. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Body Acceptance does NOT mean that you approve of poor health. It means that you accept that bodies come in all shapes and sizes and it has no relation to anyones worth as a human being. Being fat is not healthy, but it doesn't mean you are a bad person who should be shunned or hidden away.

Nudists appreciate physical beauty as much as anyone else, but nudists who truly embrace body acceptance don't judge themselves or others according to looks.

-Mark

[mj]

there are many different kinds of piercings on the penis......

a prince albert goes through the meatus, the hole a male urinates from, and the underside of the penis. a reverse pa goes through the same hole and the top side of the penis.

frenums are usually done on the underside of the penis and some guys have frenum ladders, a series of piercings which look like a ladder. sometimes a guy will have a frenum, or series of frenums, on the top surface of the penis.

i have three frenums, two on the underside, and one on the top side just behind the glans, or head.

i have found the piercings increase my sensitivity, and also produce some nice stimulation for female partners.

i have a total of 13 piercings....two in left ear, tongue (my speech has not been affected except for a day or two after the piercing while my tongue was swollen), vertical and horizontal on each nip, a pubic at the base of the penis (which provides some stimulation for the female when she grinds down), those on my penis, and two on my scrotum.

the tongue was done keep junk food out of the mouth......takes care of some oral cravings or the desire to have something in my mouth. some folks eat gummy candy, some smoke, some chew, some chew on toothpicks etc. i have not had any problems with the piercing.

a good source of information on various piercings, male and female, is www.bmezine.com (http://www.bmezine.com)

[luvmuscle22]

nice to see that some other people on here have some metal in them too. i have my frenum done, 6 gauge. it was a ring, but i have switched to a barbell at the request of my partner. she is the reason i got it done, and she loves it, the look and especially the feel. there is in now way any loss of sensitivity. only an added sensation! and for those of you out there who think it hurts, it does, but more mentally than physically. the hardest part was getting into that chair. one quick second later it was done. i walked wierd for a day or too, but it was all in my head. if you are on the fence about one, just do it - i hate needles and had no problem. if anyone ever has any questions, drop me a private mail. stay nude.

[missouriboy]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
By your definition to be a naturist we all have to stop cutting our hair and shaving anything and wearing anti-persperant. That just isn't going to happen to 99% out there. Naturism does not require we go without any jewelry or hats. Geez, next you will be saying that circumcized guys can't be naturists because their penises aren't natural. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No. Cutting hair and shaving is just the removal of dead tissue. By YOUR definition we couldn't even wash ourselves, because that would remove dead skin cells. And anti-perspirant doesn't permanently alter the natural corpus any more than hats or jewelry do. How can you compare tattoos and piercings to simple hygiene?

Your point about circumcision is well taken, but NO, I won't be saying that next, because the circumcised male usually did not choose his state.
CLARIFICATION: That doesn't say lack of choice makes it natural; it says that's why I won't be saying next that he cannot be a naturist! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I knew my comment would provoke a discussion, but hey, isn't that why we're here? This is fun! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[Rex]

After reading all this, I don't wonder that I don't want any piercings!
But don't think I'm against them for others, read my earlier posting on this thread.

[Snooky]

The only thing that is gonna get pierced on my body is my ears (those are already pierced) and maybe my navel...and even that is questionable considering how much I like needles...NOT!!!!

Snooky

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by missouriboy:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by cyndiann:
By your definition to be a naturist we all have to stop cutting our hair and shaving anything and wearing anti-persperant. That just isn't going to happen to 99% out there. Naturism does not require we go without any jewelry or hats. Geez, next you will be saying that circumcized guys can't be naturists because their penises aren't natural. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>No. Cutting hair and shaving is just the removal of dead tissue. By YOUR definition we couldn't even wash ourselves, because that would remove dead skin cells. And anti-perspirant doesn't permanently alter the natural corpus any more than hats or jewelry do. How can you compare tattoos and piercings to simple hygiene?

Your point about circumcision is well taken, but NO, I won't be saying that next, because the circumcised male usually did not choose his state.
CLARIFICATION: That doesn't say lack of choice makes it natural; it says that's why I won't be saying next that he cannot be a naturist! /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

I knew my comment would provoke a discussion, but hey, isn't that why we're here? This is fun! /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Jewelry and hats and make up have nothing to do with hygiene and piercings aren't permanent. What I am saying is why do you get to choose how much decoration any individual will have? The definition of naturist doesn't exclude any body decorations.

[MikeJB]

I think I go with Jon Marc on this, his response seems to be simple and to the point. I think we should just live and let live and not worry about what people look like or what they do to their bodies. I would not suggest that someone get a tatoo or peircing if they asked me because 1) it would hurt maybe alot and 2) for health reasons and 3) to me it just isnt natural, shaving is because some people dont want excess body hair and being smooth is natural too, ita more than just your looks, its cleaner to be smooth than hairy, but having tatoos *basically graffiti on your body* and peircings *unatural things hanging and peirced through your body, sort of like christmas ornaments on your body* are clearly unnatural and serve no real purpose. That said, if someone decided to just go and alter their body anyways and ignore me, thats fine, I wouldnt see them any different as a person and wouldnt treat them any differently but I just would hope they wouldnt get any negative effects from doing it.


Thats why I dont think its fair the government tries to regulate such things, they have control as far as doing sex and murder in public, but being nude and altering your body is YOUR business, its YOUR body, it belongs to YOU not the government and it should be YOUR right to do cover it with and alter it in any way you see fit as long as you dont harm or kill yourself. People commiting rape, murder and suicide dont apply to this for obvious reasons which stu and rocket would have a feild day with me about. So anyways yeah thats my input.

[missouriboy]

cyndiann:
"Jewelry and hats and make up have nothing to do with hygiene and piercings aren't permanent."
So? You are the one who brought up anti-perspirant, jewelry, and hats. Not me. What DO they have to do with the definition of naturism?
My original post was only about the definition of a word. See below.

"What I am saying is why do you get to choose how much decoration any individual will have?"
Before you can question my choice, wouldn't there have to be established the fact that I made a choice? Where did I make such a choice, and which way did I choose?
My original post was only about the definition of a word. See below.

"The definition of naturist doesn't exclude any body decorations."
It doesn't exclude the Eiffel Tower, either, but all that matters is what it includes. The root of naturist is ultimately 'nature' which has many definitions, but the one relevant to our purposes (from Merriam-Webster) is:
7 a : humankind's original or natural condition
So, my tongue-in-cheek post was to coin a word to define humankind's 'unoriginal' or 'unnatural' condition. Ergo, 'unnaturism.' /infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[NakedGary]

The bme [Body Modification Ezine] link referenced a couple of replies back is the most sick, wacko, repulsive, dangerous site I have ever been to.

It's a wonder the human body is tolerant of such torture, mutilation, and modification.

Anyone who self inflicts torture, mutilates, pierces, or modifies their own bodies or other persons bodies with nails, pins, clamps, knives, and inserts foriegn objects without professional and medical help should be comitted to the crazy house or mental ward if they don't die beforehand from blood poisoning, infection, STD's or worse.

Who said a hole the diameter of a pencil punched through the meatus and out the bottom or thru the penis is not permanent? What kind of guy would want to split open his penis, or punch permanant holes in it where he would have to search for a sit down toilet or otherwise spray urine all over him self. How about a gal or guy spliting their toung in half, now thats permanent, radical, dangerous, and life threatening!

I don't understand the fascination, need or desire for extreme body modification as fashion, sexual, or statement of being different, or the risk of mutilation, or reducing the function of perfectly normal body organs.

Any of these extreme mutilations would limit the opportunities of acceptance in nude recreation at most nudist clubs or resorts.

A warning of extreme content of adult nature should have been posted, and don't go there if you are easily repulsed, squeamish or sicken by the site of mutilation, gore, and blood, especially in the sub links of BME/Hard, Extreme,Heavy, and Erotic links. The Risks and Encyclopedia links were enough for me to erase my memory of the topic & subject, and to condone the victims and survivors of this mutilation path.

To each thier own.....

Be Naked, Be free, Be Natural

NakedGary

[Zoid]

Wow! The opinions are coming out on this one! While I probably wouldn't do any of it myself, I think piercings are fascinating. My first thoughts are usually "Ouch! then I wonder why the person did it. PA's are the most fascinating for the very reasons mentioned aready. It takes all kinds to make a world!

[wifdog]

I think alot of people have a problem with the thoughts of body piercing, I know I did at one
time but in my case it was the way the family was trained by my grandparents, if it was ok with them it was ok for everyone.
I now have have 10, both ears, both nips, pa and 5 in the scrotum, would also like to get a navel and a pubic, but I am very picky on the shop that does my work,
I never had one bit of trouble with infections, the main thing is to go to a reputable shop and follow the cleaning instructions.
Oh btw the pa was the 1st and it barely pinched when I had it done.
I have also gotten 3 tattoos with no problems

[Duneman]

"Naturism & Total body acceptance" to me, is to be able to welcome any human being, who enjoys the freedom of being naked unconditionally.

I might be shocked by what I see, but I don't think I am qualified to dictate what is acceptable or not.

You see enough "eye opening" sights in the textile world, so why should our naked world be any different?

Who am I to tell someone with a "bone through their nose" or "20 brass rings around their neck" etc... etc. that their body decorations are offensive??

Keep your minds open guys.... and enjoy & learn from the experience.

I am old enough to remember when males wearing earrings, would have been enough to have them "ostracized" from many jobs. and gays were committing suicide.

We have come a long way since those days thank God.

I think it is us that need to keep an open mind....

The wife of some friends of ours (who are naturists) has a genital piercing. She is a bank manager.

Do we really know the lifestyles, and the preference of body decorations of anyone around us?

[johny]

RE: namedun posted 05-01-2004 19:58
"I can't imagine why ppl peirce down there. It must hurt alot, and don't you lose sensitivity!?"

Sensitivity may be lost or medical problems gained only at totall unluckness with unexperienced piercers what dont know an anatomy. Other cases it is simply indifferent as any skin are. Some guys are telling they like a sense of weight shaking in penis and fashion-like look... perhaps it isnt false.

All those piercing thing is heavely sensitive point, similarly to discuss outside a religious-confessional beliefs. Many says any piercings are disgusting, many says it sexually provocative, while younger generation says its beauty, its more as common and if not obsessive then never provocative, and they think falling-out of social group image if to have no-one and feel embarrassed without...

Whilst I could tell my opinion is that piercings differs very much, some of them are simply small innocent hole in the skin, some of them seems nearer to mutilation.

Natural... what is to be natural?? (sorry to pasquil a Pontius Pilate famous sentence). Do the African tribe man hanged around with 100 of heavy piercings with bamboo in them is or is no natural? Answer if You can! Or New-Yorker - bank clerk, with no piercing nowhere, clad in pure nylon and full pockets of newest technologic devices, is he more natural as those tribe man??

I am sure if to discuss such deepths, we shall never end. So to do my best, I choose to shut. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

Happy weekend!

[Trailscout]

Duneman,
You can't simultaneously advocate the goodness of the unadorned human body in its nude natural condition, assert that your nudity is not a sexual come-on, and then turn right around and acquesce to people who insist that you are not cool and attractive unless your penis is skewered with shiny metal and every orifice is punctured and split.

The social pressure from non-nudists is relentless: Can't be cool unless your beautiful skin is tattooed with the latest trendy slogan. Can't be cool unless you mutilate your sexual organs. Can't be cool unless you are wearing designer swimwear or the latest Armani suits. The outside world is telling you in a thousand ways that your body isn't good enough to be left as God gave it.

Devotees of Frei Korper Kultur and family nudists are the only people on earth who accept the nude body in all its naked unadorned glory.

[Joe Nudist]

I would not have my penis pierced.

I once read about a man who had his penis pierced, and when he urinated it came out the side of his penis through the pierced hole. /infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif

[NoodJuggler]

Hi..I had my ear lobe pierced in September for my daughters wedding. I just changed the stud to what they call the slave ring. I am going to put another one a little higher on the ear myself and then probably one in the left ear but not in the lobe. My daughter was suprised that I had it done and I didn't know at that time she had her tongue pierced but removed it cause she thought that I might not agree with it. Little did she know. I always liked to be different, that is probably why I also am a naturist. You really won't understand unless you get it done yourself. Cheers..Keithmj /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[gnomeboy83]

I have two words then i will ramble

WHO CARES?????


now that said,
i have my nipples done and i love them but i jsut htink its weird when some resorts say no body jewlery allowed and there explanation is its easier for childeren since its a family oriented resort if they arent confronted with the rings and it also saves alot explanations as well. now i think that is (pardon my lingo) BULL if im at a regular resort and that same family is at the pool wouldnt the child be confronted with the same issue. i believe that its healthy for children when there not sheltered i mean if there running around naked i dont think body jewlery is really going to freak them out i bet they would just see it think is weird maybe ask why and move on with there life. its ironic that a resort will have a whole page (by this is i mean webpage of course) dedicated to how you should love your body and not be ashamed and then on the next page, say no body jewlery or vulgar tattos.......??? i dont really understand and i really wont ever people are just old fashioned i guess... anyway people should love themselves and each other no matter what the difference is. i think thats all im done

have a nice
morning
afternoon
evening
night

( i will let you pick)

[NoodJuggler]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gnomeboy83:
[QB] I have two words then i will ramble

WHO CARES?????


I had to reply to this one. Welcome to the forum. Enjoy your stay. Since you are from Michigan. Where at in Michigan? That is my home state. Niles, Michigan. How long after you got your nipples pierced did they hurt? I was thinking about that but am not sure. Some of the piercings are kinda cool. Beside, why be like everone else? Plain. Cheers..Keithmj

P.S. The i should be a capital I..Just teasing.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif

[MikeJB]

Yeah I think that whole thing with the penis ring making that person pee out the side is the whole reason id never get one down there, theres only one direction I want that stuff to come out of and thats thru the hole that was already given to me, I dont need any other passageways to be open on me down there, besides I wouldnt specifically enjoy going through the pain of getting a ring down there so for those two reasons it wouldnt be worth it. Besides I like my body the way it is and im not gonna get some ring just so someone accepts me, if they dont like my penis the way it is then the hell with em, i dont really care.

[Bob S.]

Going to the original message: I don't know about anyone else here, but the alias of luvmuscle22 is a bit on the risque side especially for someone who is asking about genital piercings.

Now to answer him, I like how Greenie put it. It may turn some people off, some people may comment about it (both positively and negatively), but for those people who have a problem with it, just remember that it is their problem.

MOboy, for me, naturism is about accepting and respecting other people's bodies. You don't have to respect their behaviour or choices, but to respect their bodies as a whole.

"If you're looking for a word that denotes acceptance of the unnatural, wouldn't it be 'unnaturism?'"

No, it would be unnaturalism.

"Cutting hair and shaving is just the removal of dead tissue."

It is still modifying how you look. It is natual to eat carrots, but if you eat too many, parts of your skin will turn orange from the excess beta-carotene. If someone did that purposely, would that be natural or unnatural?

It is a natural thing to want to madify the body. Some have chosen piercings, some tattoos, some shaving, some allowing the hair to grow. We are just in disagreement in the ways that are socially and personally acceptable.

Bob S.

[MikeJB]

I think in most cases when it comes down to what people put on and do to their bodies, it should be the individual's choice and society should just butt out because really its none of their damned business and the whole "acceptable, decent" thing in society is mostly just each person's own opinion and view and if we start to control what each person does and doesnt do with their body in public we are going to go down a very dangerous road that we dont want to go down. I mean as far as rape, suicide and murder, those are things that society should be concerned about, but things like tatoos, peircings and nudity, the society really shouldnt worry about such things, unless they clearly harm the person involved or others directly. I think harm constitutes as something more than just pissing a few people off or them finding it merely disgusting, uncomforting or distasteful too. I think some actual harm should have to be occuring because society can rear its ugly head.

[Trailscout]

I think the tattoo and piercing fad is doing enormous harm to the young people who feel pressured into it. The same shame that causes boys to wear knee-length baggy trunks to swim meets is driving it.

Michael Jackson was a handsome black man once upon a time, but somewhere along the way, someone stomped on his self-esteem and so he bleached his skin, straightened his hair, and had a nose job all so he could try to escape the blackness he was born with. What a pity!

Through some combination of herd mentality and self-loathing, hoardes of young people are believing the lie that their body isn't good enough nude and simple.

The world needs the undiluted nudist message of body acceptance now more than ever.

[johny]

RE: Trailscout
""The world needs the undiluted nudist message of body acceptance now more than ever. ""

Wonderful expression! Its worth to learn ir really.

[David77]

I realize that people have a right to wear tatoos and pierce their body and that I should respect that right.

However, I have high respect and close to reverence for the unadorned nude body. Sometimes I feel like crying out in anguish when I see someone who has used their body as a "bill board" with pictures on their flesh and with pierced metal parts on their body. To me he/she is trying to "guild the lilly". Whether it is true or not, I <u>FEEL</u> it desecrates, profanes the "near sacred" nude body.

However, I do not loose respect for the tatooed/pierced person and realize that unfortunately it has become a big fad now. It does not tell me anything about his/her character.

I accompanied my good, very old brother to his doctor's appointment. The doctor casually commented about my brother's large tatooed red heart, with initials, on his left shoulder in honor of some girl friend as a teenager.

I can certainly still like you with your tatoos and piercings, and I will probably look curiously at each of the pictures over your body, but I will probably try not to look at any piercing. I will still have a feeling of regret that you had this done to your revered body. But, to each his own.

[Bob S.]

Trailscout, I think Michael Jackson had more than just "a nose job". /infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif

"I think the tattoo and piercing fad is doing enormous harm to the young people who feel pressured into it."

The same could be said about anything. If you feel pressured into doing anything, that is a bad thing. Even converting to Christianity. Is it a good thing if someone was pressured into that? If someone is pressured into being a nudist, that also isn't a good thing. Most things that one does (after a certain age) should be consensual.

"The world needs the undiluted nudist message of body acceptance now more than ever."

I agree, but to me, that means also accepting that others may have differing body mods and I should respect that right in them. As for the messages they send out with those (or rather, the messages that others receive from them), that is another issue altogether.

Bob S.

[Rex]

Another aspect to piercings.
Some natural therapists, such as acupuncturists and kinesiologists, work on the meridians of the body.
One of my friends is such a therapist and she told me recently that piercing interfers with the body's meridians in a potentially harmful way.
She had her ears pierced, one hole in each, when she was a young girl, but she told me that she regrets this, but she did not know any better at the time.
Not the last word on this topic, but food for thought. I know her well and respect her judgement on health matters.

[NoodJuggler]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Trailscout:

Michael Jackson was a handsome black man once upon a time, but somewhere along the way, someone stomped on his self-esteem and so he bleached his skin, straightened his hair, and had a nose job all so he could try to escape the blackness he was born with. What a pity!
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Hi Trailscout.. /infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif I think they call that? A Drug User. /infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif Keithmj