Is nudism an antidote to jealousy?

[Nudony]

I was reading DJ Guy's post: "I have to ask", and the thread raised an interesting point. I decided to start a new thread rather than veer his' off-topic.

I've never really been jealous or possessive, so I can't answer that question myself. But I wonder if nudism decreases the level of jealousy/possessiveness for nudists, or if people get into it with a pre-existing high level of trust.

Personally, I totally trust my wife (even though our marriage is not in the best of shape; but one has nothing to do with the other). I have never minded anyone seeing her nude (as long as she was comfortable with it), and if she was so inclined, I wouldn't mind her going to a resort/beach without me. I am still protective of her, though. Here's a specific example of my level of trust. We have friends, an older couple, that we are pretty close to. The male friend is very affectionate towards my wife; and I am totally confident that it is out of friendship. He expresses his affection by "bear-hugging" my wife, and has on occasion complimented her on her "forms", held her by her hips or sat right up against her. His actions are always totally respectful. But I can't help to think that the average guy, seeing a nude man "cozzying" up to his nude wife, would fly through the roof.

So my question is, as stated previously: does nudism make men/women less jealous?

[Nudony]

I was reading DJ Guy's post: "I have to ask", and the thread raised an interesting point. I decided to start a new thread rather than veer his' off-topic.

I've never really been jealous or possessive, so I can't answer that question myself. But I wonder if nudism decreases the level of jealousy/possessiveness for nudists, or if people get into it with a pre-existing high level of trust.

Personally, I totally trust my wife (even though our marriage is not in the best of shape; but one has nothing to do with the other). I have never minded anyone seeing her nude (as long as she was comfortable with it), and if she was so inclined, I wouldn't mind her going to a resort/beach without me. I am still protective of her, though. Here's a specific example of my level of trust. We have friends, an older couple, that we are pretty close to. The male friend is very affectionate towards my wife; and I am totally confident that it is out of friendship. He expresses his affection by "bear-hugging" my wife, and has on occasion complimented her on her "forms", held her by her hips or sat right up against her. His actions are always totally respectful. But I can't help to think that the average guy, seeing a nude man "cozzying" up to his nude wife, would fly through the roof.

So my question is, as stated previously: does nudism make men/women less jealous?

[Naturist Mark]

Is nudism an "antidote" to jealousy?

NO

People get jealous over many things, nudists are not immune. They are not as likely to get jealous over people seeing their spouse nude, but everything else is still on the table.

Does it make people less jealous? Not sure. It is unlikely that an extremely jealous spouse is going to go to a social nudist place in the first place.

Every now and then we see a couple visit where the husband is visibly 'guarding' his wife. Obviously on the lookout for anyone who pays too much (or any) attention to her. It is not always the female half of a couple who is more uncomfortable with social nudism.

-Mark

[missouriboy]

It would if, and only if, nudity is an aspect of that jealousy (which it probably is, among non-nudists).

However, I think you're onto something, and that is since nudism promotes much closer human relationships by removing one big barrier to those relationships, it allows you to see just who is being sincerely platonic with your mate. In my own experience, once longer-term friendships have been made first, more and more contact becomes acceptable as time goes on. Perhaps, for one thing, the serious aggressor, who wants to be more than platonic, finds open nudism to be a detriment to his/her aims, because everyone is watching such behavior more closely.

But does nudism allow this reduction in jealousy to happen more, or faster, than textilism? I don't know...

[Nudeinbama]

I dearly love my wife, though our marriage is not the best of marriages, but with that said,I'm less jealous of her being seen nude, though its been in the past now. She on the other hand, who is no longer very comfortable with social nudity, or even privately, it seems, has become all the more jealous of me, nude or not.
nudeinbama

[nudenwv]

good post! we haven't really been nude together or seperate at various nudist lodges. i don't think i would be jealous if strangers came up to her and gave a friendly pat. i would how ever protect her if i saw things were getting to personal. i can only assume this one as she refuses to be nude in public or in front of me.

[FireProf]

I'd have to agree with Naturist Mark and say NO.

There are different types of jealousy. Hell....I get jealous when my wife is paying too much attention to others at parties where I don't know anyone and I'm left sitting at a table while she talks shop with collegues.

I don't worry about anyone else seeing my wife naked. If I did, I shouldn't and wouldn't visit as many nudist venues as we do.

but.....nudism will not cure jealousy. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[DJ Guy Productions]

well thanks for the kind words, but over all what is really nice about everyone in this forum is that we all have some great situations that where brought up, but everyone seems to really point out 2 important factors, 1. you have to communicate with your loved one, and 2. Discussing how the other feels about nudism is very important, no one can ever push the issue, because it's not fair to the non nudist. Spending quality time with them, and loving them for who they are, and how much we love them.


Kristopher



<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Nudony:
I was reading DJ Guy's post: "I have to ask", and the thread raised an interesting point. I decided to start a new thread rather than veer his' off-topic.

I've never really been jealous or possessive, so I can't answer that question myself. But I wonder if nudism decreases the level of jealousy/possessiveness for nudists, or if people get into it with a pre-existing high level of trust.

Personally, I totally trust my wife (even though our marriage is not in the best of shape; but one has nothing to do with the other). I have never minded anyone seeing her nude (as long as she was comfortable with it), and if she was so inclined, I wouldn't mind her going to a resort/beach without me. I am still protective of her, though. Here's a specific example of my level of trust. We have friends, an older couple, that we are pretty close to. The male friend is very affectionate towards my wife; and I am totally confident that it is out of friendship. He expresses his affection by "bear-hugging" my wife, and has on occasion complimented her on her "forms", held her by her hips or sat right up against her. His actions are always totally respectful. But I can't help to think that the average guy, seeing a nude man "cozzying" up to his nude wife, would fly through the roof.

So my question is, as stated previously: does nudism make men/women less jealous? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

[barbararuth]

Jealousy is not exclusive to textiles. Breaking the clothing barrier surely toughens our feelings somewhat, but extraordinary friendliness or touching can surely set off some jealous feelings.

I have noticed a lot of people "light-hugging" at the resort rather than the old bear hug. Hands and arms around the other's shoulders and possibly just brushing the chest and then a quick release. I have never seen any adverse reaction to this. This is usually the antidote for jealousy.

[DoctorSurferDude]

As nudists....I don't think clothes are the issue really. Although I can understand your angle on how it is more of a "test", but I think that may have a lot more to do with the personality of your friend than the state of clothing.

The fact that you know and trust your dear friend and feel that he is not crossing any lines is an important factor to being non-jealous. But make sure you're wife is ok with that sort of interaction too....bring it up to her and ask her how she feels about it.

Our responsibility is also to those around us...and I agree that light hugs have never raised any eyebrows, but beyond that, we should be careful not to offend.

At the resort, I'm purposefully less physically and verbally affectionate, even with my g/f, because I don't want to send the wrong message to any newcomers or to the kids.

[FireProf]

I understand what you're, Doc and Barbararuth, are saying about the hugs and such......but....
we have become very good friends with several couples in the past 5 years of social nudism. We meet and vacation for a week or more together.

When we do meet and see each other, we hug and give each other a kiss on the cheek, just like I or my wife would if we were clothed. I don't think we should shy away or not do this just because we are naked.

I don't think we should act any differently with those close friends whether we are clothed or nude.....and by the way, I do hug our nude male friends as I do our nude female friends. http://clothesfreeforums.com/groupee_common/emoticons/icon_wink.gif

[Nudony]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I have noticed a lot of people "light-hugging" at the resort rather than the old bear hug. Hands and arms around the other's shoulders and possibly just brushing the chest and then a quick release. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Indeed, physical interaction and affectionate displays are much less common at the resort, than in smaller circles of friends or non-landed clubs. At the resort, people restrict themselves so as not to offend the majority or send the wrong signal. And people in smaller circles tend to also know each other better. I personally also believe that the absence of clothes shouldn't prevent me from interacting with my wife, friends or children as I would in the "real world." But doing that at a resort would be a "no-way-jose."
But this kind of intimate nudism is probably not for everyone, especially the jealous types.

[Sampson01]

Jealousy is something that begaans at a early age and can manafest itself in many ways. Nudity has nothing to do with this. sted by barbararuth:
Jealousy is not exclusive to textiles. Breaking the clothing barrier surely toughens our feelings somewhat, but extraordinary friendliness or touching can surely set off some jealous feelings.

I have noticed a lot of people "light-hugging" at the resort rather than the old bear hug. Hands and arms around the other's shoulders and possibly just brushing the chest and then a quick release. I have never seen any adverse reaction to this. This is usually the antidote for jealousy.[/QUOTE]

[Captain Zen]

Jealousy is possesiveness and the fear to lose something. Remarkable that in Sweden the translation for Jealousy is "Svart Sjuka", literally "black sickness".
It is an egotrip where the person is in fear instead of in love.
It is the famous "fall" in love, where the love is a going down, a falling. into possesiveness.
Jealousy is an self inflicted emotion based upon the fear of not getting or being able to hold on to what one wants.
Based upon the evil of desire it is one of the reasons for unhappiness said the Buddha.

[David77]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Based upon the evil of desire it is one of the reasons for unhappiness said the Buddha. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
The idea that desire is evil, is certainly contrary to my way of thinking and seems not human.

<u>Now about "bear hugs" etc.;</u>
Should we not take into consideration that when we are nude and have more skin exposed we have much more tactile senses at play when hugging, and therefore there is more danger of getting aroused when hugging deeply? Arousal of one's spouse or by one's spouse by someone else, might create a jealous reaction or spouse's offense.

Therefore, I too agree with those who say that only light hugs or kissing on the cheek are appropritate when both are nude.

A few months ago I "grandly" hugged my best friend's wife as I was leaving, and she kissed me on the lips very briefly, but we were both clothed and in front of her husband whom I think (assume) was happy that I was expressing appreciation for his wife and got along with his wife well.
If she were a nudist and nude, I don't think that we would do this as heartily, but would be more casual.