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  • #46
    Re: Women and Nudism

    Last January I've been to Miami, (Summer all year), and went to Hollouver beach, and the ratio of men to women were almost the same. The only one alone was me, because my wife is not a nudist and wouldn't go with me. Lots of couples, coed group of friends, and even women walking alone, naked, in the beach.

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    • #47
      Re: Women and Nudism

      Originally posted by 78828892 View Post
      Last January I've been to Miami, (Summer all year), and went to Hollouver beach, and the ratio of men to women were almost the same. The only one alone was me, because my wife is not a nudist and wouldn't go with me. Lots of couples, coed group of friends, and even women walking alone, naked, in the beach.
      I can empathise with you as my wife though she has gone nude in the past has decided that she will no longer go nude, I still would like to at times but would not go to a beach without her. On a CO beach it really wouldn't matter if she decided to stay clothed. On many CO beaches you often see couples where one only partner is nude so your wife could go with you and stay clothed. It is less common to see couples or groups where no-one is nude; if none of you want to go nude then the general preference is for a textile beach.

      I'm interested in what makes nudists tick and relate my own feelings to how I see others reacting. There are definitely some of us who are proud to be nudists and want to make a statement. I was like that when I first became a nudist but have mellowed with time. I can remember how I would leave my wife sunbathing and set off on long beach forays completely naked for several miles even straying onto textile areas. While such forays are generally undertaken by males you do see the occasional female who enjoys the sensation of active body freedom as opposed just lying down with a bit of swimming.

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      • #48
        All of the above. Each contributor to this thread is correct.

        A nudist woman is generally adventurous, thinking out of the mainstream, without few or no body image issues, self assured and confident in their femininity, not hung up with religious morality issues, plus also having an interest in visiting a nudist resort or nude beach! This probably weeds out the greater number of women who might even try to be nude in public.

        I think there is another factor that plays into this issue. I think the problem is men. If there were nudist venues for women only, I think more women would be interested.

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        • #49
          I think that female nudists are becoming more common now then they have ever been. I started visiting beaches 8 years ago, and was sometimes the only woman around. In the last few years I don't think I've ever been the sole female (except if the weather is poor and I'm really chancing my luck). I also agree that quite a few women tend to stay in close proximity to their partner or group and will only really paddle and sunbathe. I'm definitely one for exploring and as I usually go alone I don't have a group or partner to stick close to. So I'm less tied to one limited section of the beach.

          I think on the whole there is much more variety of people on nudist beaches. Singles, couples, families and groups of all ages. I think generally women are more confident (myself included) and don't have an issue with visiting nudist places alone.

          I think the idea of women only nudist venues is a good idea for new starters, but I for one wouldn't be particularly interested anymore as I love the variety of people (singles, couples and families) that you can meet and socialise with at nudist venues. I think people might get bored pretty quickly with single sex nudist events, but I can certainly see how it would help some relax initially.

          I've never been a big one for home comforts and I love camping and not having all the modern facilities. But the beaches that I usually visit are quite restricted when it comes to facilities. My favourite beach in particular has nothing and if you need the 'facilities' you either go for a paddle or find some very private dune to hide in. I can definitely see that this might put quite a few people off and I have taken a few friends who have been quite shocked!

          I think in general women are opening up about nudity and are becoming more comfortable with it. Even being topless on UK beaches is now more accepted and seen more regularly (which it has never been in the past). I think it will just take a little more time for the balance of the sexes to start levelling.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by jayne View Post
            I think that female nudists are becoming more common now then they have ever been...
            I have also noticed the trend toward more gender balance, both in Europe and the US. And it seems to have a exponential component -- if even a handful of regulars are initially present, more and more women show up. That also seems to lead to more family groups.

            There also seems to be an age variable -- millennials are so aware that gender is far from binary, and that physical gender doesn't automatically determine who is potentially friend or foe or in control, that, at least among my students, physical gender has moved down the list of reasons to feel comfortable (including being socially nude) around someone. Given the makeup of friendship groups, a single-sex venue definitely wouldn't be much of a plus for them.

            I've also noticed more women getting involved in the day-to-day management of naturist venues and in the organization of naturist events. This has a huge positive impact, not the least (if my feminist side is allowed to speak) on how well-organized things become and what amenities are available, which in turn appeals to more people. (Millennial guys will of course -- and rightly! -- object to my outmoded caricaturization of and bias for women managers -- competence, like enjoyment of a little air-bathing time, has of course nothing to do with gender. )

            Anyway, better gender balance, as Jayne notes, may take a little more time, but the pace seems to be quickening.

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            • #51
              Location may also be a factor with female nudist participation. My Orlando nudist resort is predominantly coupled off with a few single (or solo) guys and/or girls mixed in. I visited Haulover Beach in Miami a few weeks ago. Mainly coupled off but far more singles. Single women seemed to be young and mostly in groups. A visit to a small beach in Palm Beach County had mainly couples and single men. Did not see any single females at all. Guess it all depends where you go and when. The resorts seem to cater to the older generation. The beaches have more young people.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by garbo View Post
                Location may also be a factor with female nudist participation.
                Absolutely. If you're going to try to introduce a woman to nudism, choose the location wisely.

                I've often said: the biggest motivation for women to become nudists is...other women.

                There are certain beaches where there is a strong female presence. There are resorts that are more family and couples-oriented. You just have to do some research.

                I've seen it time and time again, through my own experience or by observation. Women who arrive into a primarily male nudist environment will often be very squeamish about disrobing; if not flat out adverse to the situation. "Pressure" to be nude will make it even worse for them.
                If there is a strong nude female presence, women get a chance to "process" what it's like to be openly nude for a woman. They can observe confidence and comfort other women have with their nudity, and think about what it would mean for them. At the nudist club or resort with a strong female presence, women even have the opportunity to interact with nudist women, who might even encourage them to be nude. I've seen first-timers, ranging across the board in terms of squeamishness, "talk themselves" into going disrobing; and end the day nude and happy, with the intent of returning to the venue in "true nudist fashion", with the confidence and motivation to be nudist.




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                • #53
                  How true, NudonyII. Our first two years of social nudism were at our nude beach, about 22 + years ago. The Prof was willing and felt comfortable but still didn't want to engage with any of the other people at the beach. When we finally did friend a couple, she loosened up even more and then hit social nudism full stride when we visited a clothing optional resort in Palm Springs that was ... couples only! The fact that she could talk with other women about their concerns and fears and have those women tell her their same concerns and fears, made it a desirable place for me to take the Prof during those first couple of years visiting resorts.


                  ​After meeting couples that ultimately became our closest friends, the Prof's desire to visit other places and spend more time traveling to nudist venues, grew. We have an agreement; If given the opportunity, I will visit a new place first and check it out to evaluate if it's a good fit for my wife. If there is no opportunity to visit prior, then we go together and if she doesn't care for the place, we make it work through our reservation and then leave or leave and find someplace else to visit. That's only happened once!



                  "I've seen first-timers, ranging across the board in terms of squeamishness, "talk themselves" into going disrobing; and end the day nude and happy, with the intent of returning to the venue in "true nudist fashion", with the confidence and motivation to be nudist. " - NudonyII


                  ... we've seen this many times at the resort in Palm Springs. Regrettably, the place is now close to clothing optional use and has gone textile. Too bad because this place was "THEE" place for these first timers and it was a place that probably, single handedly, was responsible for turning people onto clothing optional recreation, vacationing and living!


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