Typical. After 21 years, the officials finally decide to abide by the law as decided by the courts. This is a positive development, but well beyond overdue.
Bob S.
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Typical. After 21 years, the officials finally decide to abide by the law as decided by the courts. This is a positive development, but well beyond overdue.
Bob S.
Mark: "One's gender identity may very well be immutable, but the body is not. Something I think Stu understands better than most."
I understand the ideas of transgender and others, but I wanted to...
Stu: "Women and men are physiologically different, they dress differently and have different notions of decency, and so the minimum dress expectation is different."
You do understand that sex is...
Stu: "Civil rights is about just that - the rights of citizens to be treated fairly and given rights that others enjoy."
So Stu, why would you not agree with women having the same rights to dress...
Let's keep this about nudity rights. You can compare other civil rights, but please keep arguments for or against gay marriage or any other issues to the appropriate forum.
Bob S.
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Keep the non-nudist gender discussion in the appropriate forum.
Bob S,
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Stu: "Do people want to be confronted by him with regard to their views on nudity?"
That question is irrelevant. Viewing something from afar isn't being confronted. Passing by someone isn't being...
terrytan: "Why would they need a permit"
Don't people like to say people like to parade in the nude? Parades need permits.
Bob S.
Stu: "He has aid he wants to "confront" people by presenting them with the sight of his naked body."
He wants to confront people and their views on nudity. Nothing about Gough is exhibitionist in...
Stu: "Wanting strangers to see your genitals is exhibitionism."
OK Stu, what evidence do you have that he wants others to see his genitals. Simply walking naked does not mean he wants others to...
Just to sort of correct you on one of your statements, Barnard, the photon is the force carrier for electromagnetism. Photons are not just light, they are everything in electromagnetism.
Bob S.
According to the article, she disrobes in front of her designing team. Whatever works.
Bob S.
Could be you two didn't recognize each other with clothes on.
Bob S.
Stu: "You think it means little more than social coaxing, I see it as a denial of free choice."
I understand it is more than social coaxing. Nudism sometimes requires more than coaxing. It...
Stu: "Mandatory was the word she used - and she was there. Why would she use that term other than to indicate she didn't really have a free choice?"
She used the term "pretty much mandatory" and...
Stu: "t depends how one defines "child", Bob. And it also depends on the individual"
Her parents allowed her to travel to another country on her own to stay with a family they probably had never...
Stu: "it is wholly wrong to put anyone, and especially a child in a strange country, in a position of having to strip naked in front of strangers and with no genuinely free choice to decline."
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Stu: "it wasn't a term she used, but telling a child that something is "mandatory" is telling them they have to do it - their own wishes don't enter into it. Qualifying it with a statement that ...
Stu: "They would not browbeat a young visitor to their home to participate in nudism in the way the German family did"
Don't you think browbeat is too strong of a word? They explained to her why...
jasenj: "Are we reading the same article? I got the sense that she thought the whole thing was ridiculous and boring. She tolerated it because it was expected and to refuse would have brought...
jasenj: "When a person (adult) in authority says, "You can do this or not, but if you don't we'll think you're a horrible person", that's not really "no consequences". (Read the article, they made...
Stu: "she didn't really have a free choice. That was wrong."
She did have a choice. As WiiDoit copied from the story, a section that you omitted, nothing would happen if she didn't participate in...
Stu: "My issue is that she either should have been told in advance, so that she knew what to expect and could then accept or reject the exchange, or else the hosts should have asked her whether she...
Stu: "The family would have known that nudism is not "absolutely normal" to most other people. They would have been aware that the chances of a stranger being comfortable with nudity was slight...
Thanks jason for the link. It saved me time looking for it. I merged the two threads.
Bob S.
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