Karma is my friend. Thanks Rok!
I'm lucky, because I live full time in a clothing optional resort, so I NEVER have to worry about wearing clothes. When the UPS man or someone similar comes to the door, I still open it. I am not concerned, because they are coming into a nudist environment.
Like most everyone else has said, this is not weird, just a desire on our part to be naked when and were we want and not just in designated places.
I live in the heart of the San Fernando Valley so other than my back yard, there are not that many opportunities to be nude in public. This does not mean that I have not done it, just that I have to be very careful.
Centari4 asked how our attitudes about being nude has changed over time. For me the change has been drastic.
I always had the desire to be nude, but being very underweight and self conscious about my appearance, I would not even go out in a pair of short, let alone nude.
I had heard about a nude Beach in San Diego, but could not imagine what that would be like. One late summer day many years ago, I finally was able to visit Blacks Beach for myself.
In no time at all I had my shirt and jeans off and just stood there completely nude on a beach with thousands of other mostly nude people. That was my first experience of being nude in public.
Now being nude where most everyone else is also nude is one thing, but being nude where everyone else is clothed is something totally different.
I had been going to Deep Creek for a couple of years, but did not get nude until arriving at the hot springs. I had heard that some people would hike from the trail head to the springs nude but had never seen anyone actually doing this. One day I decided to just do it and when I reached the trail head took off the shorts and put them in my pack, that way when I would encounter other hikers I would not be tempted to cover up. Sure enough in no time at all there was a fully clothed hiker coming up the trail. We actually stopped and talked about the hiking conditions and the water level in the creek and at no time was the fact I was nude even mentioned. This positive reaction helped reinforce my feeling that being nude where others are not was really no big deal.
On a later visit I talked to the owner of Bowen Ranch which is were most people park to get to the trail head about being nude there as well. He said as long as no one complained, it was fine with him. Now when I go there I drive from home nude, pay the entrance fee nude and leave all my clothes in the car when I go hiking.
I think the most extreme experience of being nude where most everyone else is clothed is riding in the World Naked Bike Ride. I did this for the third time just over a week ago riding in the Los Angeles WNBR.
I think going from not being seen in a pair of shorts to riding around the streets of Los Angeles for two hours completely nude shows just how far I have come in feeling comfortable while nude just about anywhere.
Sorry for being long winded, but sometimes a topic will just remind me why I like this site and why I enjoy this lifestyle so much.
J.P.
You took a risk. Had you met me on that trail, I would have been highly offended by your behaviour and I would have told you so in very forthright terms and possibly called the police. You were lucky that time that you encountered someone who had no problem with your behaviour. He might have responded differently if he had had his wife and children with him.One day I decided to just do it and when I reached the trail head took off the shorts and put them in my pack, that way when I would encounter other hikers I would not be tempted to cover up. Sure enough in no time at all there was a fully clothed hiker coming up the trail.
The wording of your posts suggests to me that you actually relish the thought of being seen naked by others and I find that disturbing.
Stu
Just about everyone knows what they are getting into when they go to Deep Creek. When you go, you expect nudity and that can be anywhere from when you first enter by the gate and pay your fee to when you are at the creek. Deep Creek is a laid back area that is definitely not for uptight people.
Stu, I've learned to accept and respect you as an individual, but this is really getting old.
YOU are on a Nudist Site. (HELLO ?) How many people here are going to agree with you? Do you really think your comments are appropriate?
They just make you seem thick-headed or dumb -- and I know you are neither.![]()
Home Nudist
If Sanslines is correct, and Deep Creek is a location where nudity is generally accepted, then I have misunderstood the context - I apologise and withdraw my remarks. However, reading J.P's account, i.e. "when I reached the trail head took off the shorts and put them in my pack, that way when I would encounter other hikers I would not be tempted to cover up", that suggested to me it was not expected behaviour and, therefore, had a real possibility of causing offence.
The nudists I encounter on here seem to be responsible and considerate people - they try to avoid the kind of "in your face - if you don't like it, get over it!" attitude we find with militants and activists. Nudity in public occurs by negotiation. There are places set aside for it, other places where it is tolerated, and there are special events where it is permitted. Outside of these circumstances, reasonable care should be taken to avoid causing offence and my reading of J.P's account was that it was undertaken without such care, and that can only risk damaging the reputation of naturism.
Stu