(Single) Male Profiling: Fixing It For The Greater Good

[tiger79]

I combat this when I go to a nude resort in a very simple way: I behave myself!
I don't stare, leer, gawk, flirt, stalk or behave rudely.

Sadly, that won't get you admittance to lots of places on your own.

[nakenone]

Rich well off single men of any age dont seem to have a problem,if they did; than they can buy the resort,,you ask for a fix get a job . Hopefully after the next election you will be able to find one. Nakenone

[Kouak]

Rich well off single men of any age dont seem to have a problem,if they did; than they can buy the resort,,you ask for a fix get a job . Hopefully after the next election you will be able to find one.

I did not realize that resorts were that cheap. So your "fix" is to just "get a job" and "buy the resort." Life is only that easy in fantasy-land.

[78828892]

It's that attitude that so many naturist and nudist resorts have against single males that leads me to just prefer to not even promote or patronise ANY naturist or nudist resort, simply because it is that attitude they have by stereotyping the single male in-general as something they need to be afraid of for some reason is such an insult to all single males of the world, globally. And that's wrong.

Hell if they're gonna be fair about it they should ban all single females from the resorts for that matter and under the same charges.

Justice is imbalanced in the realm of naturist resorts and it's nothing new, guys.

Avalon resort in W. Va. accepts single men. I´ve been there a couple of times without my wife because she is not a nudist, and everybody were very nice, I disrobed the moment I came in, there were people naked and people in different stages of dress, nobody cared. I went there to be nude, so I didn´t even dress for lunch or dinner, same as others, while others chose to wear something. Same service, same attitude toward the single naked, or the dressed couples.

[usuallylurk]

Most resorts (not all) do not discriminate against SINGLE men. Some have a "quota" - to attempt to make it so there are an equal number of men and women on the grounds at any time.

Now - married men (or married women) without spouses - different story. I've beaten this to death in various threads in the last several years, but the reasons are --

-- SOCIAL, they want their nudist resort / park / club / campground to be a retreat for the family to enjoy together. They would rather NOT be a retreat FROM the family. Especially if they're trying to maintain a family atmosphere, which many nudist parks attempt to do. You want a retreat from the wife? Duffy's Tavern.

-- LEGAL, this comes into play, particularly with cooperatively-held clubs, where, with membership comes ownership in the club. It can cause some legal problems down the road... and, in North America, contested divorce is not completely dead. There have been instances where a disgruntled spouse of either sex has managed to harass club members, invade their privacy, even hire detectives to photograph license plates of cars entering the park.

There are reasons clubs care about this, and make it their business. They're trying to protect their atmosphere, their club, and their members. My recommendation to those is to seek out a park where you're welcome. You can also form your own social group for nudism if you wish; it's been done many times.

After around 32 years in nudism, I have learned a few things.

One, it is OK for a club to have a screening / interview, with anyone, to determine an inquirer's motives behind wanted to try nudism.

Two, different groups have different atmospheres, and different settings, and different audiences. As a married guy whose wife participates with me, there ARE still some places I cannot go.

There is a club up in Maine, that is male-only. It used to be a general nudist park, under previous ownership. I do not begrudge them their restrictive policies, and so I wish them luck with their venture. I have no interest in visiting them if my wife is not welcome.

There are several male-only groups in my area. I have no interest in those, either, but I respect their restrictive policies. In fact, I understand why they have them.

There is also a new trend, where groups and gatherings of "young naturists" are welcome but 60-somethings like my wife and I are NOT allowed. I really hope they succeed, and I appreciate that they have to do it without me and mrslurk.

We also belong to a landed-club that has couples'-only restrictions, and two non-landeds that are open to all. We enjoy those people, from all of these groups.

Three- you may howl that discrimination sucks. Yeah, it does if you feel you're impacted by it. But take note, there's a lot of what some would consider "discrimination" in nudism. But it's all done to shape the course of whatever group sets admission policies.

I have a lot of friends who lament the demise of their club in Maine, and they have no place to go any more up there. There are some who are over 40 and don't like the idea of under-30-only gatherings. And there are many in the greater Boston area who wish that there were social gatherings where straight couples and single women were allowed to attend.

Of course, there are many who also bellyache "well, gay-only is not discrimination"; "the womyn's swim does not really discriminate, no, wait....", "under 30s only is not discrimination" -- and I've also come to learn that many elements in nudism feel discrimination is JUST FINE, so long as it passes some sort of test of political correctness.

So the problem goes further than just single males, or married guys whose wives have an aversion to nudism or fear of it.

[LumpyPostage]

Why is it so important to have an equal number of males and females? If you're there to enjoy nature, what difference does it make?

[nimrod]

Why is it so important to have an equal number of males and females? If you're there to enjoy nature, what difference does it make?

Some think that with an inordinate about of males, women will not want to be there out of fear.

[scrptman]

Some think that with an inordinate about of males, women will not want to be there out of fear.

If this is true, then we should be re-educating those that think this way, as well as the women who have this fear, about the actual premise of naturism ... instead of penalizing the men who have done nothing wrong except wanting to be able to practice nudism.

[usuallylurk]

Some think that with an inordinate about of males, women will not want to be there out of fear.

Many KNOW that with a huge number of males, women will not want to be there as discomfort is there.

And many also know that a club that is mostly male -- unless it was formed for the express purpose of being all-male -- generally won't last long. Even the men lose interest.

It's a real situation that has been addressed -- over the last 70 years -- without a solution that will make everyone happy.

And if you can come up with one, list it here.

The problem is that social nudism is not as palatable to many women as it is to men. If an imbalance exists, couples and women tend to shy away from some places.

As a result - you have some places that function well with gender balancing; others do well without it.

I guess the best things to do -- go where you feel most comfortable.

And if you have a wife who prefers an environment where there's a reasonable gender balance to a predominately male environment -- I don't know how you'd go about convincing her that the "balanced" environment isn't a good thing for her, or how to persuade her to accept the latter place over the former.

Or why you'd have to.

So let me flip the question to you guys.

My wife does go with me to "open gate" events, but also enjoys going to a nudist gathering where men do not outnumber women by a ratio of 3- or 4- or 8-to-1.

Now, let's assume we have a choice between a place where gender balancing is in place -- and she prefers it. How do you convince her that it's not right to go into such a place, and such places shouldn't exist?

[nudkin]

I have to admit that I continue to be baffled by the thought that a business would not welcome a customer based purely on gender. I have been to resorts throughout Florida, Texas, Virginia, Kansas, and the Caribbean and have never come across any discrimination based on my being a single male at the time. Now, I am a card carrying AANR member and always call ahead the first time I go anywhere to ensure I will be welcome but have never once been turned away...even from places that are more open to "lifestyle" or swinger type activities. And when I leave, I visit the front office and always provide feedback on my visit and ensure I am welcome back.

So, just where are these places that discriminate anyway since I have only seen a few advertised as being "couples" or single female only.