What A Global Warming "Hoax" Looks Like

[Navigator]

Remember don't say "global warming" say “Climate Crisis.”.......because it didn't warm up.

Ohhhhh...Wrong Again Gloria. But I know you have a Google machine of your very own to use to look up actual facts and photos, and I know you've had this subject explained to you ad nauseum on this forum, so I'll let you do your own research on it...again.

I want you to know, though, that I really appreciate your constant attempts at Perception Managment on a forum or forums like this known for discussing actual facts. You're giving the world, of nudists at least, a very accurate perception of the thought processes of a self-described Tea Party member.

PS. I like number five....I guess he doesn't want us to exhale.

That guess would be...Wrong Again Gloria.

[Gloria]

Ohhhhh...Wrong Again Gloria. But I know you have a Google machine of your very own to use to look up actual facts and photos, and I know you've had this subject explained to you ad nauseum on this forum, so I'll let you do your own research on it...again.

I want you to know, though, that I really appreciate your constant attempts at Perception Managment on a forum or forums like this known for discussing actual facts. You're giving the world, of nudists at least, a very accurate perception of the thought processes of a self-described Tea Party member.



That guess would be...Wrong Again Gloria.

Thank you for your comments, Nav.

But a "wrong again" by Navigator without a substantial argument or at least a shred of contrary evidence....is like a bag of hot air.

[Navigator]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...r-most-realize

[Gloria]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/guest-...r-most-realize

It that a reply for me or are you just posting another "Doomer" manifesto?

[Navigator]

It that a reply for me or are you just posting another "Doomer" manifesto?

It's not a reply to you.

My replies to you will usually start with "Wrong Again Gloria."

[Gloria]

Another wacko is telling us that the Arctic Ocean will be entirely ice-free within four years because of Climate Change™.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen...llapse-sea-ice

What this alarmist fails to consider is natural causes. I am sure that Mark can explain Pacific Decadol and Atlantic Multidecadol Oscillations better than I can, but they happen periodically. They have in the past and will in the future....and Mother Nature does not want us fooling around with them.

Another thing that alarmists seem to forget about is that Antarctica is part of the globe. Antarctica currently has the most sea ice ever recorded for this date, which is more than the greatest amount of sea ice ever recorded in the Arctic.

[WiiDoit]

Another thing that alarmists seem to forget about is that Antarctica is part of the globe. Antarctica currently has the most sea ice ever recorded for this date, which is more than the greatest amount of sea ice ever recorded in the Arctic.

And here is a link that helps explain how even though air temperature is warmer the the sea ice is near record.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...9258_blog.html

[Naturist Mark]

And here is a link that helps explain how even though air temperature is warmer the the sea ice is near record.



http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...9258_blog.html

That's a good article, but it gets far more into the weeds than necessary. The explanation for less Arctic ice and more Antarctic ice - both due to global warming is pretty simple.

Ice accumulation is not dependent on overall temperature. It accumulates because there is more snow falling - snow only requires temperatures below freezing, so higher temperatures that are still below freezing don't affect that. But air temperature does affect how much moisture the air carries - so higher temps over the sea creates the conditions that allows more snowfall over the Antarctic ice pack. Sea and pack ice melting is the result of higher temperatures, but increased snow/ice accumulation is the result of warmer oceans that increase atmospheric moisture that falls as snow over the polar regions.

[jon71]

Gloria likes to toss around the word "alarmist" in connection to climate change. I was watching the news several days ago and one thing included in the coverage of the arctic melting was that the predictions on this from years ago were LESS severe than what is really happening. In other words we weren't alarmist enough.

[Gloria]

That's a good article, but it gets far more into the weeds than necessary. The explanation for less Arctic ice and more Antarctic ice - both due to global warming is pretty simple.

When I got to the part of the article that blamed the "Ozone Hole" for more Antarctic ice I almost discarded the whole thing.

This is a newspaper article by a journalist trying to minimize the evidence that shows less Arctic Ice = more Antarctic Ice. Nothing more than Mother Nature balancing things out like she has done for ions with or without CO2.

He does make one valid note: "In short, the behavior of Antarctic sea ice is complex." Nuf said.