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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

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    Of course they have to make judgements but you NEVER mentioned this before. You were always adamant that a law was being broken and the law must be upheld.
    I have never said as an absolute "the law must be upheld" - judgments have to be made, but if the police consider a law is being broken and especially if they have complaints, then they are duty bound to act.

    the law that is being applied is a catch all kind of law that can and is used for anything that other laws do not apply to
    It is a broadly framed law, as all public order laws are. They have to be so framed - and there are very similar laws across Europe which can be used in such circumstances.

    More likely that the law is not about fairness or real justice...........it is more like a game with serous consequences for many individuals that attorneys play with each other.
    I have seen how Scottish procurator fiscals operate and they absolutely don't play games. They tend to be dour, straightlaced and nothing like US attorneys.

    Never heard of very loud music being played during a party?
    If someone plays loud noise/music and it disturbs others then, in the UK, the police or local council will order them to cease. If they don't - they are prosecuted.

    And very many do not care judging by the responses given in the article.
    Those who don't care can be discounted - they can not be considered as approving Gough's behaviour. If somebody "doesn't care" in an election, they don't vote so their views are not taken into account. The people who do count are those who either actively support or oppose - and there are many more of the latter.

    Since when is arrogance a crime. If it was, then 90 percent of the male population would be locked up.
    My chief point wasn't to complain about his arrogance, but his behaviour. I was responding to what you said, namely "if he is such a menace to the public (as you claim) then as least in the USA he would be arrested, registered as a sex offender, and told that if he goes within a certain distance of children, he will be arrested again and spend serious time in jail. The fact that he is in and out of jail leads a person to believe that what he did is not as you described and / or the police really do not take him as anything more then a nuisance."

    Now you can read for yourself that he DID do what I said he did - I showed you an article which quoted the judge saying he did what I said he did. The police used their powers to the fullest extent by arresting and charging him. The judge does not have the power to put him on the Sex Offenders' Register for breach of the peace - but sent him to prison. If that's not taking it seriously, then I don't know what is.

    Sanslines - I am sure there are some good, decent and reasonable nudists out there who will be a credit to the nudist movement. But, as the Scottish branch of British Naturism recognises, Stephen Gough is not a good advert for nudism. You need a better role model than this guy.

    Stu
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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    I hope we never hear about him again as he is no advert for naturism and indeed probably a hindrance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by northlondoner View Post
    I hope we never hear about him again as he is no advert for naturism and indeed probably a hindrance.
    He is a crystal clear example government over-reach in enforcing social norms - the justice system was shown to be perfectly willing to exert extreme punishment for a harmless act of social deviance that caused zero harm. That is not an 'advert for naturism', but who thinks being an 'advert for naturism' was ever Gough's role? But he did an important job in consciousness raising about laws and societal norms that oppress harmlessness.
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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    I don't know how the Rambler can continue outdoor rambling through Winter. It is already too cold to ramble in Scotland for at this time of year the sun is too low in the sky and daily highs may only average 50F and nightime temps 30F. Who can naked ramble in such temps?

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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    Quote Originally Posted by Naturist Mark View Post
    He is a crystal clear example government over-reach in enforcing social norms - the justice system was shown to be perfectly willing to exert extreme punishment for a harmless act of social deviance that caused zero harm. That is not an 'advert for naturism', but who thinks being an 'advert for naturism' was ever Gough's role? But he did an important job in consciousness raising about laws and societal norms that oppress harmlessness.
    Gough has continued to distance himself from organized naturism and has always claimed that he has never represented naturism. The naturist community for the most part has continued to criticize and condemn the rambler's actions for fear that people would associate his unorthodox activity with organized naturism.

    There still is a tremendous and deep seated societal fear about all forms of nudity and this will not change in the near future.

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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    Sanslines

    The naturist community for the most part has continued to criticize and condemn the rambler's actions for fear that people would associate his unorthodox activity with organized naturism.
    The naturist community is right to do so.

    There still is a tremendous and deep seated societal fear about all forms of nudity and this will not change in the near future.
    Good news! Thanks!

    Stu

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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free, Arrives in England

    Naked Rambler walks free, Arrives in England

    Knut CaspariFree the Naked Rambler Stephen Gough

    Met Stephen this morning in good form. I had brought my children along and we walked a bit with him. I was told he was a fast walker, but he was not that fast. He was good with the children and they in return did not seem bothered he was naked. Children tend to accept things more easily then adults.
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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    Looking at the route he is taking - areas I know well - he does appear to be compromising now by using some fairly remote "national parks", avoiding populated areas and busy roads.

    I hope he continues to stay out of the way of others - for his own and everybody else's sake. If he doesn't, he is likely to find himself at odds again with the English criminal justice system.

    Stu

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    Re: Naked Rambler walks free from prison - and walks away nude

    Quote Originally Posted by Stu2630 View Post
    Looking at the route he is taking - areas I know well - he does appear to be compromising now by using some fairly remote "national parks", avoiding populated areas and busy roads.

    I hope he continues to stay out of the way of others - for his own and everybody else's sake. If he doesn't, he is likely to find himself at odds again with the English criminal justice system.

    Stu
    And I think the nudist community should just ignore him.
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