Stu's Nude Day

[Stu2630]

But like how others suggested, have you tried or considered swimming nude? That's where nudism really shines.

Thanks, but that really is a step too far. I can swim - I have a lifesaving medal for it - but I don't actually enjoy swimming even in a costume!

jasenj

We need to take up a collection to have a pool installed in Stu's backyard

My wife and daughter would certainly appreciate that. She keeps suggesting we get one.

Or send him & his wife down to Mallorca or some other place with lots of nude beaches.

I only live 10-minutes drive from a nude beach, and there are many others around here.

But no - don't even think about me going to it because i absolutely will not. I'm the friendly textile here and I intend to stay that way.

Stu

[NudeWiking]

>SNIP
Hi Søren

I saw the Danish coastline earlier this afternoon, driving down the E6/E20 between Helsingborg and Malmö. It is a quite a few years since I was "på Falster" and I have never actually been on Bøtø strand, but I have seen the signs for it. It is a fribadestrand, isn't it? I have been to Faxe Ladeplads many times - one of my favouriute Danish beaches - but never ventured as far as Feddet (another fribadestrand?).

With my excursion into home nudity, I have gone as far as i am going to go - I am certainly not going nude on any beaches, Danish or otherwise.

If you ever plan to come to my part of Sweden, let me know. I will certainly have a beer and a chat with you and point you in the direction of my local nude beach at Mellbystrand - but I'm afraid you will be going there without me!

Stu

Hi Stu
Bøtø beach is actually the first beach Where I have seen the CO sign. We have no law against nudity on beaches and you can find naturists on the far parts of most Danish beaches from time to time. off cource we wont go nude on the most popular beaches since one thing is law another is comfort. You are right though about Feddet since part of it is well knovn as a popular naturist beach. I have never been to Fakse Ladeplads but its not far from home so I may go there one day.
May I ask you what it is that prevent you from being nude on a beach? Did you say it scares you or...?
Best regards
Søren

[Stu2630]

Hi Stu
Bøtø beach is actually the first beach Where I have seen the CO sign. We have no law against nudity on beaches and you can find naturists on the far parts of most Danish beaches from time to time. off cource we wont go nude on the most popular beaches since one thing is law another is comfort. You are right though about Feddet since part of it is well knovn as a popular naturist beach. I have never been to Fakse Ladeplads but its not far from home so I may go there one day.

Hi Søren

I have been to DK countless times, and pretty much every part of the country: I have mainly stayed in Dansommer properties in the summer, but sometimes with friends or in hotels. I like Denmark very much and I even learned the language.

I have a number of friends in the Danish police, and one friend who is a Danish judge and law teacher. Aside from people changing into and out of swimwear, I have seen nudity twice on Danish beaches. The first time was in Jylland: at the instigation of another poster on here (BobS), one hot day I wandered away from a main beach some distance and onto a "fribadestrand". It was close to desserted, but I did wander past a very overweight man lying nude' alone, lying face down in the dunes among the rosehip bushes. There someone else much further down who also appeared to be a man and also naked, but too far away to make out. The second occasion was a couple of years later at Tisvildeleje. The beach was immediately behind out summer house, but there was a very long staircase to get down to it. It was a busy beach with children playing in the sea. Again, a lone male, I would guess in his mid 40s, stripped off completely and started hanging around a boy and girl who I would think were aged around 11-14. I could see that they ignored him even though he was fairly close. I went away for a short period and, when I returned, the man appeared to be having a conersation with two other, younger men, who were wearing swimming costumes or shorts (I can't remember, but they were not naked). A few minutes later, I saw a police car pass my house and stop at the top of the steps. A few minutes after that, the previously naked man, now dressed, walked past my house towards the main road. The police car was parked near the top of the steps to the beach, but it was empty and I didn't see any policemen. I don't think the guy was a nudist, or even simply out to enjoy nudity. I suspect (and I can't prove it) that the younger men were related to the children and were concerned for their safety and speaking to him about his behaviour. I suspect that explains the arrival of the police.

Aside from that, I have not seen any nudity on Danish beaches. Of course, I don't expect to, because I stay on main beaches and avoid the fribadestrande. My Danish friends (police and the judge) tell me that the law does not specifically prohibit nudity unless the local kommune makes an order to that effect (which has happened only for two beaches in the country). However, that does not confer an inalienable right to nudity on any beach, unless it is a designated fribadestrand - and these as you rightly say tend to exist at the far end of other beaches. On ordinary beaches, nudists are expected to show consideration for others, generally by keeping a distance from them. I showed my friend who is the judge and law teacher the "Danske Naturiste" and the advice that offers, and he told me it was somewhat misleading: if nudity ocurs on a beach which is not a fribadestrand and people complain, then the police will act using public order laws, just as would happen here in Sweden, and in the UK. However, it is not an issue because, in my experience, Danish (and Swedish) people are generally very considerate and so they leave main textile beaches to us textile beaches, which is how it should be.

You ask me why I don't go nude - I don't really like being nude and I am never nude in the presence of others, and I do not like nude people around me. Having said that, my "nude day" showed me that being nude alone isn't as bad as I previously thought, but I can't honestly say it is something I want to become a habit.

Stu

[jasenj]

Aside from people changing into and out of swimwear, I have seen nudity twice on Danish beaches.

If those are your only experiences with nudity on beaches, I'd say you've had severe misrepresentations of the clothing optional beach experience. There really is something special about being on a beach with a few hundred naked people. You see that people all have parts, they are different and the same, and your own self-consciousness fades away - at least that is how it worked for me.

I would suggest you make a trip to a popular fribadestrand. I think you will find it a far more positive experience than you expect. Even if you do not become a convert, you should at least gain a better insight into the experience and why people are so passionate about it.

- Jasen.

[Barnard]

Thanks, but that really is a step too far. I can swim - I have a lifesaving medal for it - but I don't actually enjoy swimming even in a costume! My wife and daughter would certainly appreciate that. She keeps suggesting we get one. I only live 10-minutes drive from a nude beach, and there are many others around here. But no - don't even think about me going to it because i absolutely will not. I'm the friendly textile here and I intend to stay that way.

Stu

Damn! Me and Jasenj were going to start up a fundraiser where we each send you $100 for the installation of a swimming pool so you could go skinny dipping, lol. All joking aside, though, its admirable that you took the plunge into the unknown and it's up to you to decide where you go from there. I wish you the best in whichever route you ultimately go in the future.

[NudeWiking]

This summer though not as good as id like it to be.
Feddet north of Præstø. 2 good days and severel people in the nude.
Egerup north of Skælskør. 2 good days and severel couples in the nude some even playing beach tennis.
Bøtø. One day (actually just a couple of hours) Severel people, couples and family with children in the nude.
Offcource there will be days beaches are more or less deserted and naturists being a minority will result in almost none in the nude.
Simple nudity will not cource the police to interfere even on a textile flypaper but ofcource if you offend people, sport an erection or similar you will be prosecuted. Youll have to really show of to do so and most naturist will go to the far parts of the beaches and mostly textile and naturist coecxists without any problems.
best regards

[Stu2630]

Jasen,

I have no doubt what you say is true. You, as a nudist, enjoy nudism. I am a confirmed textile and nudism isn't for me. We are all different.

Barnard

Thank you. It was good that I experienced a short period of home nudity so that I can better understand what it feels like. Of course, that is very different from practising nudism with others.

Søren

Feddet, Egerup and Bøtø are all listed as fribadestrande, so of course one would expect to see naked people there. That is why fribadestrande exist! I have never seen anybody naked at the main beaches at nearby Stillinge Strand, though, or Karrebæksminde, or Fakse Ladeplads and i don't believe you have. One of my friends, a policewoman from the Rigspolitiet, told me a couple of years ago that there had been complaints on Jylland about German nudists using a textile beach at Ebeltoft on Jylland and their naked presence was annoying the textiles' families and they were ordered to move somewhere else by the police following a complaint to the mayor. The story made the local news, apparently. I noticed that the official nudist beach guide, "strandguide.dk", website changed their advice after this episode and now gives this advice:

"I Danmark er det tilladt at bade nøgen på alle offentlige strande, så længe man viser hensyn til de andre badende. På strande, hvor der kun bades med badetøj, betyder det at man holder en passende afstand til andre badende."

http://www.strandguide.dk/

(TRANSLATION: In Denmark, it is permitted to bathe naked on all public beaches, so long as you show consideration to other bathers. On beaches where there is only bathing with swimwear, that means you keep a suitable distance from other bathers.)

So the Danish naturists recognise that not all beach users are comfortable being around naked people and they have rights, too, which the police can enforce if people are behaving unreasonably.

Stu

[Agde]

We just did the opposite of Stu. At considerable personal sacrifice, both spiritually and philosophically (acknowledged with good humour by our visiting friends), not to mention putting ourselves at serious risk of being tatooed with tan lines, we went to a full-fledged textile beach today! In southern France near the Italian border, it was actually both informative and quite amusing.

For one thing, of the hundred or so people around us, all but maybe a half-dozen of the women sunbathed topfree -- tho usually adding a top when going swimming or, in the curious case of the person right next to us, when she received a phone call. I hence had to revise my stereotype of "textiles" to something more like "genitextiles."

The Portuguese family in front to the right seemed to include three generations. They arrived in street clothes and changed using towels wrapped around -- just like my preconception. But the result was two speedos, two mono-kinis, and three nude pre-teens. I need a label -- failed-naturists? A Scandinavian couple (30ish) arrived, pitched their umbrella, and changed without bothering with towels. Temp-naturists? A British couple (40ish) arrived (and later left) wearing swimsuits under their clothes. She was one of the few retaining a top (underwires and all). Definitely Stu-textiles, I thought. But her suit was white and turned pretty much fully transparent when wet. A failed-textile? An elderly French couple (70ish), mahogany brown, were there all day under a large blue umbrella. When they changed into street clothes, no towel-wrapping and no tan lines. Ah ha, undercover fake-textiles like us! Two American mothers, just behind us with a gaggle of kids from teens to toddlers, somehow managed a conversation about common friends and shopping sales between re-applying sunscreen to every passing kid and responding to shouts of "Mom! Look!" At last, except for no tops, real textiles!

One thing that struck me at the textile beach, since it doesn't happen chez nous, was kind of a constant beach cadence -- every time someone moved, there was a tug at some wayward piece of fabric. If it wasn't a wedgie, it was a nipple slip, or water-filled trunks in search of ankles. By the end of the day, I doubt anybody had managed uninterrupted coverage. It occurred to me that 1) all the tugging had the unintended effect of drawing attention to the little that remained covered and 2) that, if it weren't for alert and conscientious maintenance, most of these folks would have been naturists by sundown.

Perhaps rather than promoting naturism, all we have to do is encourage holiday absent-mindedness. I'm imagining a end-of-day beach littered not just with remnants of snacks but also with stray bits of absent-mindedly left-behind polyester...

[nimrod]

I'm the friendly textile here.

Stu

ROTFLMFAO

You may have some here fooled but not me.

[jasenj]

I only live 10-minutes drive from a nude beach, and there are many others around here.

Where I live in the USA, the closest nude beach is ~350 miles away - and I live on the coast, near many beaches. Think of that. The closest place I can go and be naked on the beach without fear of being ticketed, arrested, or labeled a sex offender for life is a seven hour drive away. It is very easy to take the position that nudists should be polite and stay in their designated areas when you have many near you.

On the East Coast of the USA - from the tip of Miami to Maine, there are less than 10 (maybe less than 5) sanctioned, completely legal, clothing optional beaches. There are a few areas where nudity is tolerated, but still technically illegal. In over 2,000 miles of coastline, there are only a handful of places where people can enjoy a nude beach.

Perhaps that will give you some idea of why people in the USA are driven in their pursuit of nudism. Why we seem to rudely push boundaries and not be polite citizens. Why some folks here bristle at your position that nudists should stay in their place. Why we are a bit evangelical in trying to persuade you to give a nude beach a real try.

Europe seems like a completely different environment. And I can understand your position given where you live.

- Jasen.