What is freedom worth to you?

[Skinview]

I don't know if you're right that any one of them believed that but if they did they were just accepting a popular fairy tale of their day.

They thought highly enough of the idea that they put it in the founding document of our country, as THE justification for decalaring independence. So if they were all crazy, do we owe the British all the back taxes on that tea?

Keep in mind more than half of them thought slavery was o.k. and not a single one considered letting women have the right to vote. Are you with them on those issues as well?

Jefferson knew slavery was wrong (you know, the guy who wrote that men "are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights"), Franklin became an abolitionist (one of the other guys on the committee that came up with the Declaration), John Adams, (the third guy on the committee) thought slavery was evil, and Washington freed his slaves in his will. None of these guys were perfect, but they were leaders in advancing liberty, and deserve our respect and admiration.
What, give women the vote? Are you nuts???

[nakenone]

How much is freedom worth ,how much are you paying for bondage ????? Thease two are not free. You pay for one or the other or a mixture,,there is risk involved the price will vary determined by risk . What will buy today,s??shop wisely. Nakenone

[Gloria]

If you think it is not our fault for continuing it, then you would not think it is bad to fence known stolen goods.

Oh no...I'm not saying that continuing slavery was right. I'm an abolitionist. All I'm doing is "spreading the blame" to all those involved.

[Gloria]

For the same reason as today's corporations send American jobs overseas...greed and cheap labor!

Yogi, you always refer to corporations and Conservatives as greedy. (As if no one else is greedy). But liberals who take someone else's money and contribute nothing but a heartbeat are the very definition of greed.

I know, I know...you're not a liberal.

For what we Conservatives consider individual success and productivity, liberals must create “devil terms.” “Oh, you’re a selfish profiteer.” or "You greedy SOB".

I know you're not a liberal. You told me so and I believe you.

Human beings have a desire to enrich themselves. They can do so by commerce, by crime or by war; it goes without saying that commerce is the only acceptable means of enrichment in a civilized community. But liberals consider that greed. (?)

I am sure that you will agree that it is far better for individuals pursue riches through trade and investment rather than crime, plunder and war. Today we live in a technical, industrial world of commerce. What is a better way to seek prosperity? Through legitimate business, Corporations, and investments or war and crime?

I know, you said that you are not a liberal, but you sure throw the term "greed" around in a very liberal manner..................

[Kouak]

Yogi, you always refer to corporations and Conservatives as greedy. (As if no one else is greedy). But liberals who take someone else's money and contribute nothing but a heartbeat are the very definition of greed.

At the risk of being on both of your sh*t lists, the 2 of you arguing is just like the Republicans and Democrats going at it now-a-days. While there is a shred of truth to what you say, you both imply that it applies to the entire other side. I maintain both sides are almost identical. There are a few that are the extremes that you portray, but most people are "normal." They go to work, get a paycheck, pay bills, and pay taxes. Both parties have rich people, poor people, celebrities, investors, teachers, CEOs, millionaires, and homeless. Oh, and both parties have Americans, patriots, soldiers, gun owners, and politicians.

Can't we just get along?

[Yogi Bare]

Mother England could have abolished slavery in her American colonies that she controlled. I wonder why that didn't happen

For the same reason as today's corporations send American jobs overseas...greed and cheap labor!

At the risk of being on both of your sh*t lists, the 2 of you arguing is just like the Republicans and Democrats going at it now-a-days. While there is a shred of truth to what you say, you both imply that it applies to the entire other side. I maintain both sides are almost identical. There are a few that are the extremes that you portray, but most people are "normal." They go to work, get a paycheck, pay bills, and pay taxes. Both parties have rich people, poor people, celebrities, investors, teachers, CEOs, millionaires, and homeless. Oh, and both parties have Americans, patriots, soldiers, gun owners, and politicians.

Can't we just get along?

First, did I say something that wasn't true?

Second, I agree with you that both parties have the types of people that you described.

Third, I can get along with anyone, even those who deliberately spread lies and misinformation. But, I shouldn't be expected to accept or believe such lies and misinformation. So, is it wrong for me to expose such lies and misinformation and to answer questions by pointing out the truth?

Fourth, you're not on MY sh*t list.

[Kouak]

For the same reason as today's corporations send American jobs overseas...greed and cheap labor!

First, did I say something that wasn't true?

You give the impression that you believe that all (or most or a majority) of today's corporations send jobs overseas and are greedy. You actually believe this?

[Yogi Bare]

You give the impression that you believe that all (or most or a majority) of today's corporations send jobs overseas and are greedy. You actually believe this?

I'm not sure how you get that impression from what I said, for I didn't indicate that.

No, I don't believe that all (or most or a majority) of today's corporations send jobs overseas and are greedy. However, those who do want cheap labor and are greedy. Is that not the reason why they do so? Why not keep Americans employed and accept less of a profit?

[Kouak]

I'm not sure how you get that impression from what I said, for I didn't indicate that.

No, I don't believe that all (or most or a majority) of today's corporations send jobs overseas and are greedy. However, those who do want cheap labor and are greedy. Is that not the reason why they do so? Why not keep Americans employed and accept less of a profit?

So all corporations who send jobs overseas are greedy? No corporation does it because they could go under if they don't reduce their costs because not enough Americans buy their Made In America product for a higher price?

[Naturist Mark]

So all corporations who send jobs overseas are greedy?

No, just the greedy ones.

Do you really think Apple and Nike couldn't make profits if they returned to domestic manufacturing? ... And if we had trade policies like China, Korea, Malaysia and others that protect their domestic markets, wouldn't those profit margins be just as high?