Topless Equal Rights

[ohjay26]

Yes, sure it's a legit group. That's why all the women depicted (or nearly all of them), are trim, appear to be all under 30, and there are pictures posted nearly every day. Gee not too many 50-60-70 somethings there, and it's my understanding that THEY also read pulp fiction. I guess they have trouble attracting older women!

I don't know about other cities but you are correct about NYC. When they had topless day, women of all ages and shapes participated. All the women in THIS group looked like models.

[nimrod]

I remember now what I was going to say before. As often as they brought up a certain book and publishing company, made it seem like an advertisement more than a real group. They where asking for more members which seems like a plus. I am not convinced either way, just some things that crossed my mind.

[ibrahim]

They call themselves a co-ed group. But where are the men? Could just see someone's penis in a few pictures, no more. And also remember that co-ed means co-EDUCATIONAL. They should read something educative.

[Naturist Mark]

They call themselves a co-ed group. But where are the men? Could just see someone's penis in a few pictures, no more. And also remember that co-ed means co-EDUCATIONAL. They should read something educative.

As has been pointed out 'co-ed' also means 'young women' colloquially. When a person is referred to as a 'co-ed' it never means a young man, even though it logically should. That being said, the 'pulp-fiction reading group' does claim to have a small number of male participants.

I think nimrod may be onto something about this group being more guerrilla marketing than genuine activism, although genuine activists like Femen do use topfreedom as a protest tool, this is much more 'unprotesty' activism. I had wondered if this was another project from the Raelian UFO-free-love cult like the GoTopless days - they seem to have plenty of attractive spokesmodels available for their events - but no, there doesn't seem to be any connection there. Looks like a clever publicist at Hard Case Crime made a good move in connecting with the group - but can't tell if the group is their creation or not, the group does not exclusively read Hard Case books, but they do give them good promotion on their blog.

[westheathen01]

I don't know what happens in America and Canada, but here in England we have such things as book clubs or reading groups. The members all read the same book and get together how ever often to discuss the book and it contents aims of the author etc. This is probably much the same with a slight tweak to the rights of admission to the group in that you read while either topless or naked.

[nudetech]

I remember now what I was going to say before. As often as they brought up a certain book and publishing company, made it seem like an advertisement more than a real group. They where asking for more members which seems like a plus. I am not convinced either way, just some things that crossed my mind.

Gee, my thought was almost the opposite, "Why so little on the books?" it is after all a book club, so I would have expected the books to get equal time to the toplessness. Personally I would find it more interesting if there were less pictures and more book reviews, although i am not really a fan of pulp fiction.

If you read some or the older posts it will explain more about the group, including why so few men feature (they do not want to scare of potential female recruits by having too many men). I guess though you can only explain your philosophy so many times, where as you can always take more photos. I think it is laziness as much as anything. As for the age demographic, it is those who are confident in their bodies, have time to sit around in parks (without bringing their kids), and are willing to go against social norms. Not surprising then that most are under 30.

Is the group "Legit?" it depends what you mean by that. I believe the group exists for the reason they say it does. I do not think that matches entirely with what naturists would want the group to be. I am sure as well that some individual members may have their own reasoning, including rebellion and titillation/exhibitionism, but that could be said about naturism as well.

-chris

[nimrod]

Not sure why this thread crossed my mind, but I do not think that I explained my thoughts very good. Has for being "legit", I only mean in a top-freedom activist sense, not in a "not a real group" sense. I like that these women are outside in public topless, I think that it helps normalise female toplessness, even if they are not activists, the more women that are seen topless, the less "shocking" it becomes to see topless women. Has long as it is not sexual, I think that even topless models in a public venue helps to normalise female toplessness.

[LumpyPostage]

Did anybody else find all the penises odd in a discussion of topless women?

[Boreas]

Did anybody else find all the penises odd in a discussion of topless women?

Well, that is pretty typical actually.......and perhaps one reason why topfreedom does not take off and become mainstream.

[usuallylurk]

I guess women could go anywhere, where going topless is legal, and read a book. Be it Central Park or on the beach where it's OK.

Or at a nudist park -- I know of book clubs and book circles in at least two nudist parks. mrslurk is in one of them -- no, there are no pictures, and most of the women are over 55, and there are one or two men in the group, too.