Is there any hope for female nudism online?

Eternity · #1 01-04-2009, 04:53 AM

Are we to accept that online nudism is mostly a guy thing? What can be done to make things better?

Pete Knight · #2 01-04-2009, 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternity

Are we to accept that online nudism is mostly a guy thing? What can be done to make things better?

I really don't know, that would be best coming from the female perspective, but overall I think the Electric Interweb is a mainly male dominated area anyway.

I know several ladies who surf, and quite a few on naturist forums, but some have been put off by approaches from men, and even the innocent messages can be quite tiresome.

My friend dropped out of Skinbook because of all the messages she was getting, she said they weren't crude or suggestive on the whole, just tiresome. I advised her to ignore them.

As for friends or buddy list invitations, I simply ask those inviting me to write a little about themselves and why they want to be my chum, its not much to ask is it? Extensive lists of friends are pointless if you don't have a common interest (Besides naturism.) or you know them, or even plan to get to know them.

I refuse requests from people who simply send a blank request, unless I know them, as is the case on my Skinbook page and the BN forum, a lady friend on the BN forum has disabled her friends list, so no one can request her friendship.

A feeling of harassment has to be the main reason why there are so few ladies signed up to forums.

Pete Knight

NudeAl · #3 01-04-2009, 09:52 AM

Another guy here chiming in so I am not sure my perspective is going to be of any help.

My sense is that more males are interested in nudism than females I think it may have something to do with males being more the visual aspects of nudism. I am saying this badly I guess what I mean is that we males are not put off by being nude we tend to be less self conscious of our bodies and have an easier time with the whole concept of nudism.

Another thing I see is that these forums tend to be dominated by men. The few women who do post here have to have thick skin.Usually it's just a case of men over whelming the woman with sheer numbers. Most of those who post here are gentlemen but it only takes one jerk to put a woman off enough to stop posting here.

Finally I know from my wife that the topics she finds interest her are not ones that get talked about much here. I think that it might be that simple women have other things that interest them and take up their time.

I would love to see more women posting here. I think a lot of guys could benefit from hearing things from the female perspective. I just have no dea how to generate interest in order to get them to post here.

**EricNY** · #4 01-04-2009, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete Knight

I know several ladies who surf, and quite a few on naturist forums, but some have been put off by approaches from men, and even the innocent messages can be quite tiresome.

A feeling of harassment has to be the main reason why there are so few ladies signed up to forums.

Sad but very true Pete

**EricNY** · #5 01-04-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by NudeAl

My sense is that more males are interested in nudism than females I think it may have something to do with males being more the visual aspects of nudism. I am saying this badly I guess what I mean is that we males are not put off by being nude we tend to be less self conscious of our bodies and have an easier time with the whole concept of nudism.

Not sure I agree with that Al. From what I see at nudist venues, there are as many and sometimes more females interested in Natusm.

Men have a lot of hang ups when it comes to being nude as women do...in fact men probably have more.

Eternity · #6 01-04-2009, 10:50 AM

In "offline" life I do talk more about nudism with my male nudist friends than my female ones. With the guys it's a much more popular discussion topic. I'm not sure why. That might be why more guys enjoy forums such as this?

Naturist Mark · #7 01-04-2009, 11:11 AM

Frankly, I don't think there is much hope for anything approaching gender balance in online nudist sites.

Things are much better at clubs and resorts, but frankly, women - especially unattached women - receive an often alarming level of attention. Even at those few places where "gender balancing" policies are implemented.

This site has a "women's only" section for that very reason.

If we ever start to experience a problem with too many women paying undue 'attention' to male visitors (no matter how well intentioned), I suppose this site will have to consider a "male only" section. (not holding my breath on that)

Many women simply participate online as men, or are deliberately ambiguous about their gender. Many couples use a single account. And a few men who like the attention pose as women - but that is an entirely different motivation - At this site that is a violation of the TOS (contact the moderators if you wish an exemption - I don't know if they would approve it, but as long as you have a good reason and it isn't for the purpose of deception it's worth a try).

Given all that, I am impressed by the women who are thick skinned and confident enough to post openly. I am not all that sure I would be able to do that.

Back in the early days of the internet, when dinosaurs roamed the 'nets and a 1200 baud modem was "high speed broadband", I was on AOL staff. One exercise we conducted for the benefit of male staff (oddly enough, at that time the majority of online staff at AOL were female) was to use feminine identities and visit a number of chat rooms. It was an eye opening experience, and led to my own laying down the law for my sisters and nieces that when going online they needed to always use masculine or ambiguous identities.

Fitz1980 · #8 01-04-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Eternity

In "offline" life I do talk more about nudism with my male nudist friends than my female ones. With the guys it's a much more popular discussion topic. I'm not sure why. That might be why more guys enjoy forums such as this?

Possible. I have been accused of sexism in the past for saying stuff like this and I probably will again but it seems that lots of good stuff is majority male. I'm a geek (sci-fi, video games, horror, things like that) and if you go to a "Geek-Convention" like Dragon*Con (a huge sci-fi/fantasy convention held yearly in Atlanta) males defiantly outnumber females. Lots of females wear crazy/sexy costumes and just bathe in all of the male attention that they get. I've known girls who were into other traditionally male things like professional sports, motorcycles or car engines and they say the same thing that when they let it be known that they are football chicks or car chicks the guys just circle them like a flock of buzzards. Most of my female friends are the girls who have mostly guy friends. Girly-girls rarely even interest me.

I guess that people just flock to folks who are in that gender minority. I know a guy who's a special education teacher in an elementary school. He's a young, good looking guy in a school where the faculty is over 90% female. He's practically having to beat some of these women off with a sick. As a young single dude he's loving it now, except for when females with wedding rings ask him for a quickie in the janitor closet or some girl who he took home last week introduces him to her fiance a week later at the school X-Mas party; and yes both of those things actually happened to him. In a few years if he's happily married, perhaps with a kid of his own, I'm sure it will get tiresome for these female co-workers to embarrassingly throw themselves at him if he's trying to stay faithful.

afzilla · #9 01-04-2009, 12:23 PM

Ha ha. Straight people are tramps.

I mean: Ooooh, all this out-and-out straight sexiness makes me very uneasy. Dragoncon is supposed to be about the innocent fun of comic books and SpEd is supposed to be about the innocent fun of 'tards, not about sexytime!! I daresay can't these heterosexuals keep it in their bedrooms like normal homos instead of flaunting it all the time. Won't somebody please think of the gay children?!?!?!

Mutant · #10 01-04-2009, 02:53 PM

No, there's probably not much hope for women in these online forums. They're becoming more and more sexist and bullying, like a bad sports bar filled with drunk, horny men high-fiving each other after a touchdown or whatever. The policies that are designed to attract more women to nudist venues are the same as those that are used to attract more women to bars, and I think women have grown wise to that. Women who want to get groped all night by aging jocks head on down to the "free drinks for ladies" bars. Those that want to dance without being pawed go to gay bars. I think these forums, as well as clubs, make such a desperate issue out of gender that women are freaked out and assume that they will be treated as objects once they enter the gates. It would be great if nudism could strive to be gender-blind, but I suppose dudes luv da ladies, hubba, hubba...

I don't want to just pick on guys, because there are plenty of women who love to be objectified and lusted after like a Hooters waitress. I just think the more intelligent, progressive-thinking women who are attracted to the nudist philosophy are quickly scared away by what looks like more of the same.