Something to think about

Nate Dekan · #1 02-19-2003, 09:53 AM

I was thinking this morning about what Scripture says about darkness and light and had this thought I wanted to share...

"Perversion thrives and grows in dark hidden places, you wonder why are society has such perverse attitudes towards the human body? It is because we hide parts of it in shame. When all parts of the human body are openly accepted without shame there is less darkness for perversion to feed on."

Hmm, something to think about.

Nate

Nate Dekan · #2 02-19-2003, 09:53 AM

I was thinking this morning about what Scripture says about darkness and light and had this thought I wanted to share...

"Perversion thrives and grows in dark hidden places, you wonder why are society has such perverse attitudes towards the human body? It is because we hide parts of it in shame. When all parts of the human body are openly accepted without shame there is less darkness for perversion to feed on."

Hmm, something to think about.

Nate

#3 02-19-2003, 12:07 PM

Very true, Nate. Evil likes to hide in the darkness because their deeds are evil. John 3:19,20 says "And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For everyone that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved."

Hiding the human body only feeds people's perversive desires and ideas about the body. It feeds their fatasies and causes the mind to go wild with ideas. The fantasies grow to epic proportions until they have to act on their fantasies through perversive acts.

Jochanaan · #4 02-19-2003, 07:03 PM

So that's why our movement hasn't broken into society's main stream! Hmmmm--secretiveness vs. openness. I know which I prefer!

#5 02-19-2003, 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by Nate Dekan:
[qb]I was thinking this morning about what Scripture says about darkness and light and had this thought I wanted to share...

"Perversion thrives and grows in dark hidden places, you wonder why are society has such perverse attitudes towards the human body? It is because we hide parts of it in shame. When all parts of the human body are openly accepted without shame there is less darkness for perversion to feed on."

Hmm, something to think about.

Nate[/qb]

Society has such views of nudity because most christian churches teach them to.

#6 02-19-2003, 10:37 PM

Cyndiann,
Even as a Christian I have to agree with that. Churches of all demoninations have taught that nudity is sinful and shameful, and the body must be kept covered. One pastor I had didn't like males and females swimming together even. Unfortunately, too many people have fallen into that belief and have been brainwashed.

#7 02-20-2003, 06:14 AM

Actually I should have taken it one step further because christian religions are not the only ones that teach people that nude is bad.

Who do you think you will find joining pornsites? It will be those who are taught that human bodies are something NOT to be seen.... and those are mostly people involved in organized religions. They want what is forbidden.

If we all were more open about nudity the porn industry would be lots smaller. I don't think it would ever be gone and it does have it's place. I like looking at what I call erotica myself. But I feel it would be done in a more healthy manner instead of being a substitution for open discussions and nudity around the family household.

#8 02-20-2003, 07:19 AM

Ah, yes, the forbidden fruit. When something is forbidden it's more tempting. If a father says to his teenage daughter, "I don't want you to see that boy again", she will sneak out at night to see him. If a child is told, "No, you can't have a cookie just before dinner", the child will sneak a cookie, and probably more than one. When anything is forbidden or made to seem mysterious, it becomes something people MUST have.

Making the human body seem something mysterious that must be kept hidden because it's "offensive" makes the porn business a multi-billion dollar business. Make nudity commonplace, and the mystery would be virtually removed. Porn is sex; it excites and arouses because the poses are not what not you see in a nudist environment--hopefully. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

Nate Dekan · #9 02-20-2003, 07:22 AM

I agree cyndiann, and that is why I'm trying to make the focus of my site, showing Christians how damaging body shame is. Unfortionatly most Christians seem to be uncomfortable with what God created and called very good, so instead of openly accepting the body as good in the light, they call it indecent, reject it and thus send it into darkness where perversion thrives.

We've had Promise Keepers in my town for big events at the staduim a few times, after one such event a local paper ran an article on how much business increased with local porn shops, porn channels at motels and with prostitutes while Promise Keepers was in town, I believe that's a direct result of Christians (and others) regulating the body and sexuality to darkness.

I know from my life and others that there is much good about Christianity, but like many other things I also know there is also much that isn't good in it. Christianity is kind of like sex, in itself it's very good, but it is also easily abused, perverted, and corrupted.

Nate

#10 02-20-2003, 12:52 PM

Well the problem as I see it is that you are only teaching half the message. I would have to know what you consider "perversions" before I could say for sure but many times not only is plain nudity healthy but many forms of sex are as well.

If you try and teach that nudity is ok but sex is not (and don't limit it so severely as many christians do) you aren't being honest. Many things that the religious call perversions are really not. Masturbation has been proven to be a good thing for the body, same sex relationships are good for the soul, sex outside of marriage is very normal and commonplace anymore and it is perfectly sane to admit you like being spanked or tied up during sex, or you like to roleplay, or you try some tantra positions.

So just what is your personal definition of a sexual "perversion"?

Mine would be sex with children or animals.