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01-21-2004, 10:22 PM
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The Naked Christ - Did Christians Visit the Roman Baths?
http://www.tekline.co.uk/natjes3.htm
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01-21-2004, 10:22 PM
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The Naked Christ - Did Christians Visit the Roman Baths?
http://www.tekline.co.uk/natjes3.htm
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01-22-2004, 03:44 AM
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christ preached to the jews,with a few exceptions' the jews tradtion at time [and still?] was never to be fully nude when bathing[where underwear came from?].when gentiles were invited [peter being the first to receive the command to go to the gentiles] everything changed so to speak,the expression"when in rome---" comes from this time. so very likly early christians did vist the roman baths,since it was the mission of early christians to preach the christ as savior
not to"put clothes on the heathens". really a lot of this stuff came when king james started the church and we got the kjv bible.the english simply did not bathe,and wore all these clothes to protect their outer garments.geetting windy here so---
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01-22-2004, 03:56 PM
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Yes Christians visted the Roman Baths. This is very well documented.
Bishop Sisinnius in 400 AD enjoyed the public baths so much he attended them twice a day. When asked why he went two times a day his reply was because three times a day would be inconvenient. The monk Jovinianus went on record approving ?baths in which men and women bathe?. Jovinianus came under attack after he began to develop a following. Yet with the exception of Jerome the main criticisms were that he did not hold celibacy as a higher calling and that Mary did not stay a virgin.
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01-22-2004, 04:10 PM
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BTW, there was a very good article some time ago in the Fig Leaf Forum on this. If you don't already subscribe I highly recommend it. Cheef.com calls Fig Leaf Forum "The Foremost Christian Nudist Publication".
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01-22-2004, 06:06 PM
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quote: Originally posted by tarsus:
[qb]. . . . really a lot of this stuff came when king james started the church and we got the kjv bible. . . . [/qb]
Huh? What church did King James start?
King James authorized a group of scholars to produce a new translation of the Bible, but he didn't start any churches.
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01-22-2004, 08:11 PM
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I guess I'm just curious....When God commanded the Jewish men of old to be circumsised, as an outward sign to other nations, how can the circumsission be "viewed", if it was under the wraps of a robe?
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01-22-2004, 11:08 PM
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Dewey, good question! How can something that is covered up be an "outward sign"? There are a lot of "signs" in the world that advertise, and not one of them is hidden. They have to be seen to be effective and to get their message across.
If there was a message that God wanted to get across to people by way of circumcision, didn't He mean for people--at least the men--to be nude?
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01-22-2004, 11:15 PM
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Dewey and Jon-Marc ...Sure sounds like it to me...Odb [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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01-23-2004, 04:31 PM
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Actually the Catholic bishops almost universally condemned the baths. In the year 195, Clement of Alexandria said, "The baths are opened promiscuously to men and women. And there they strip for licentious indulgence (for from looking, men get to loving). It is as if their modesty had been washed away in the baths. Those who have not become utterly destitute of modesty shut out strangers."
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