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09-01-2003, 09:31 AM
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Just out of curiousity are there any other Mormon naturists on the board, besides Greensunshine and I? I heard there was, and I am curious to know who they are.
Of course don't get me wrong, I am a very open person and I'll talk, befriend, and love those that are of different faiths or that are even athiests. Still I can't help but be curious if their are more Mormons on this board.
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09-01-2003, 01:12 PM
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Are there any official positions by the LDS church or some LDS statements of faith or sacred books that specifically forbid social nudity?
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09-01-2003, 02:26 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Trailscout:
[qb] Are there any official positions by the LDS church or some LDS statements of faith or sacred books that specifically forbid social nudity? [/qb]
I'm not Mormon, but I came across an LDS Skinnydippers' website at www.ldssdc.info - there's a good chance that it might answer some questions about your church's policy regarding nudity. I hope it helps.
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09-01-2003, 02:57 PM
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I'm a Salt Lake Mormon/naturist and will jump in on this one. I joined the church seven years ago and was a closet nudist since my teens but did not realize it until I got Internet access 7 years ago and found similarly minded people.
There are no strict policies about nudity. The Church's General Authorities years ago would all swim naked at the Deseret Gym downtown. It was church-owned and was on the site where the new conference center is located. Boys and men of all ages would go there to swim, exercise, etc. and no one ever said anything about attire.
I think much of the prudish sense of false-modesty is due to misinterpretation of the law of chastity. People I know out here somteimes dress in dark closets out of "modesty". My ex-wife included. Personally, I belive that you can remain modest in any state of dress purely by your actions. By their definition, showering is immodest. By my interpretation, actions that draw attention to certain parts of your anatomy or explicitly sexual would be immodest, certainly not showering, swimming, or hiking, or most other activities naturist enjoy in mixed company.
When I first moved to Utah, I was not LDS. My first impression of some of the college ladies aI met was that they made even the Amish look wild!
I can't speak for Mormons everywhere but I'm basing my perspectives on experiences with Mormons in 4 states in different parts of the country. Non-Utah Mormons are quite different than Utah Mormons, possibly due to the diversity.
There are many here in Utah that will not read newspapers, watch television, or or educate themselves on world events that are not churhc-related. I see this more as ignorance and naivity more than innocence.
Okay, that's my little soap box for the day. I think that's why some Mormons, primarily Utah Mormons, perceive church doctrine.
I'm registered with the LDS Skinny Dippers group and enjoy some of the communications I've received. The information offered is very beneficial and much more fact-oriented than my views here.
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09-01-2003, 08:13 PM
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Greetings,
Well I will add my name to list of Fellow LDS member that enjoy naturism as well. I joined the church just over two years but was a nudist before that. I talk about my naturism to another member in my ward and he went to the Bishop about it. It was not for several weeks that the Bishop called me to talk and he brough up about my activity as a nudist. He offered to counsel me to lead away from it but when I asked him if he knew anything about it he admitted he knew nothing so i asked him how can you council me on this issue that you know nothing about. The I offered to provide him with website where he could learn and from there we could discuss he declined to learn therefore I declined his council. What bothered me the most was that he tried to tell me that there are unwritten laws in the church that forbid this type of activity and that if I read between the lines I would understand that nudism was wrong. These statements are wrong to say becasuse a true church would not have such unwritten laws and for reading between the lines that is just a matter of one understanding of the scipture that that understand can change as we learn more and try to see things in a different light. Now please understand this I do not fault the church or any memeber for this one Bishops perspective. I know there are others in my new faith that share the same belief in naturism and there are other Christian who also share the same belief in naturism it is that knowledge that keep me strong at least in that view. Just to note we ahve a new Bishop now and he to knows of my activity fortuntly he was not condemming about it as the previous one which helps in keeping the faith in the church.
Now as for my relation to the church is still on the bumby side. I am not very active not due to my view of naturism but simply due to some personal issues to resolve.
LeoNJ
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09-01-2003, 09:37 PM
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Wow,
I originally had a very pointed commentary here but I decided to remove it since the thread has been so peaceful thus far. Anywho, add me to the Mormon naturist list...I was raised Mormon but have been inactive for about as many years as I was active now at this point...wow that sounds weird. Anyway, I still cherish what I have recieved from the church, it has shaped the way I view myself and my Heavenly Father in the cosmos but I am not into have a bunch of puffed up wannabes in cheap suits tell me how to live my life, like your ignorant bishop. Don't get me wrong, some of the best people I have ever known have been LDS and although I am inactive, I still hold to many of the beliefs of the church and still consider myself a member. The way I see it, I know how to read, that's all I need. Sorry, I think I am getting off topic again. Anyway, Tenchi I am here and I am LDS in a manner of speaking so chat at me if ya want [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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09-02-2003, 07:40 AM
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Hi Everyone,
I thought I would share some more stuff bout me since I am a regular on this BB and a convert to the church.
I am a single actually divorced female in her mid 40's who believes it is a greater sin to deny the many blessings that have come about as a result of being a nudist than to have been inactive as long as I have. I too have had several very bad experiences in sharing my view points with my bishops in the past and thus have learned to listen to the spirits on who I should and who I shouldn't tell in the church...which sadly is the vast majority of the members [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]
I currently am in the process of trying to reactivate myself for the upteenth time in my life...oh, the joys of moving so often and being single...both of which makes it really hard to sometimes get to know anyone other than my neighbors close by [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]
I have also been very open to my children about my decision to become a nudist...I currently have one daughter who is and the other 3 children who sometimes wish they didn't know I was...especially my sons.
I also tried the organized social nudism thing in the clubs in attempt to meet others only to be burned beyond ones worst nightmares...this is one of the few regrets I have in life...thus to sum things up in a nutshell if I had it to do over again as far as mistakes I have made in life...this is one I would definitely put at the top of my list...I do not swing and unfortunately that is what happens at the majority of the nudist clubs behind closed doors. The other thing that occurs in this places is Rape...something I experienced first hand by more than one person and more often than not the rapest goes free while the victum is even more victumized by others who opt not to listen to the other persons side of the story.
Greensunshine in the Pacific NW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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09-02-2003, 01:34 PM
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quote: Originally posted by greensunshine:
[qb] Hi Everyone,
I thought I would share some more stuff bout me since I am a regular on this BB and a convert to the church.
I also tried the organized social nudism thing in the clubs in attempt to meet others only to be burned beyond ones worst nightmares...this is one of the few regrets I have in life...thus to sum things up in a nutshell if I had it to do over again as far as mistakes I have made in life...this is one I would definitely put at the top of my list...I do not swing and unfortunately that is what happens at the majority of the nudist clubs behind closed doors. The other thing that occurs in this places is Rape...something I experienced first hand by more than one person and more often than not the rapest goes free while the victum is even more victumized by others who opt not to listen to the other persons side of the story.
Greensunshine in the Pacific NW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
A minority in a majority world
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My yahoo id is: waorgrnsunshine [/qb]
Greensunshine that was a very powerful post. I admire your strength to carry on with all you have suffered! To you and others who here who have had the guts to post something so personal about yourselves, I salute you!
Have a great day all! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]
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09-02-2003, 07:20 PM
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Greetings everyone,
Thanks Ben for your feedback, I am glad to say the new Bishop that we have is not condemming of the activity. He simply asked me if I had confirmed my view through my prayers. He just let me know that he knows and that the only other persons in the ward that know are just the previous Bishop and him. The fellow member that I talked to has since moved out of the ward. So the secret is safe, unless I get dumb and talk to someone else which I will not do again.
On a side note. I am glad to see that this thread has been peacefull. The last time someone posted asking for Mormon Nudist he was meet with harsh sarcasim and ridicule. This board has greatly improved since then and the bad apples that caused trouble are now gone. So on that note lets all pray that peace can continue here and that it will spread throughout the world so that all people will someday enjoy living in peace.
Sorry for straying off topic.
LeoNJ
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09-02-2003, 07:41 PM
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Hi,
I'm an inactive Mormon. I posted that earlier on the board & had positive & negative responses. I'm glad to see the responses have been courteous this time around.
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