Janet Jackson v Jordon

brax · #1 02-15-2004, 05:15 AM

just wanted to get peoples views on the janet jackson debate which it seems, to most people in england, like most americans have gone OTT with. I found this link

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...6&section=news

(its all one long link), which gives the british v american view on the issue (tongue in cheek). lets us know wot u all think.

brax · #2 02-15-2004, 05:15 AM

just wanted to get peoples views on the janet jackson debate which it seems, to most people in england, like most americans have gone OTT with. I found this link

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackage...6&section=news

(its all one long link), which gives the british v american view on the issue (tongue in cheek). lets us know wot u all think.

Nude in the North · #3 02-15-2004, 12:56 PM

I'm glad to hear that only 200,000 americans complained.
That's not even 1% of the population.
Considering we live in a country where people sue McDonalds for making coffee Hot. I am not surprised that atleast 1 person is looking to get rich from it.
The worst thing that will come out of this whole ordeal is the way the rest of the world will view these few people as a majority of Americans.
Most Americans are NOT traumatized by seeing a breast. The Shock of it came from the total surprise of the event. The surprise came from our expectation that it would have been censord.

Americans are so used to seeing the little colored dots covering certain body parts that they are often surprised that they are not there when they look in a mirror.

America needs to lighten up.
Let's get a sense of Humor.

Steve

MikeJB · #4 02-15-2004, 01:35 PM

Yeah, thats the whole point, those media idiots use the fact that 200,000 thousand americans complaining about that as an actual majority when really its just 1% of the whole population and is a minority because its even less than the amount of nudists in this country, so there are less people who care about this whole ordeal than there are nudists. The media just uses that number because it sounds big and so many americans are so guillable they buy into it, but really most people dont give a damn about it.

steve-o · #5 02-15-2004, 01:55 PM

FYI: many people complained of the context of the nude breast -- not the breast per se... That the context was an involuntary and a violent one, that Justin T. was ripping at her clothes against her will in the act. some were implying that it was titalizing (no pun intended) and making light of rape.
- my two cents

Rik · #6 02-15-2004, 02:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by steve-o:
[qb] FYI: many people complained of the context of the nude breast -- not the breast per se... That the context was an involuntary and a violent one, that Justin T. was ripping at her clothes against her will in the act.[/qb]

But do you think that if it was just acted out violence without the nipple that those same 200,000 people would still have complained? I don't think so!

FWIW from a European perspective, the shot of Janet Jackson's exposed breast was featured in at least one of today's serious UK Sunday newspapers and the general view being expressed here is one of incredulity that those crazy Americans can get so upset by a nipple. One report I read said that in last month's Tatler Magazine (an up-market society, fashion and beauty magazine) there were 11 exposed nipples and not a single complaint!

I expect if Stu was still here he'd tell you that everyone he knows was alarmed and distressed on behalf of you Americans, but take it from me it's given us plenty to laugh about over the past week.

Rik

**Bob S.** · #7 02-15-2004, 06:24 PM

I was also surprised when the media made note of the fact that "Over 200,000 people have complained so far!". And how many people saw it? What I would like to know is how many people TiVOed it? My guess is a lot more than 200,000 ( how many people even have TiVO?) How many more people would have TiVoed it if they had TiVO? How many times can I say TiVO and am I the first to verb TiVO?

I am almost positive that a lot more people were fascinated by the fact that something happened on live TV that does not normally occur. How many people complained when the streaker made his way onstge during the Oscars (?) in the 70s? Probably no one. One of the problems with it was the overall sexualized performances of the entire halftime act. Personally, I think they need to go back to one or two singers with a theme. Remember back in 2002? Now that was a great halftime show!

Bob S.

Rik · #8 02-16-2004, 01:10 AM

Maybe they should drop the half-time show and just give people the opportunity to chat about the game.

Rik

Rex · #9 02-16-2004, 08:52 AM

I know it's not the fault of the people who post on this forum, but do Americans really want to be known worldwide as the people who have dirty bodies because:
They don't shower after strenuous exercise. [See Showers Banned, Nude Recreation.]
Have dirty minds because:
They become paranoid over a momentary glimpse of part of a breast.
An expatriate American has already said how Americans are perceived in Europe. [See Current Events etc, Legal Issues.
This could become a hot media topic, if it was handled well.

nudeM · #10 02-16-2004, 09:06 AM

Rex: The problems are that we, Americans, are obsessed with our bodies, and do not wish to be exposed. I am speaking entirely on the past, when taking showers after P.E. and taking showers in the service was no big deal. It's just in todays world, the mention of taking a shower in "front of everyone" is more of a sensitivity issue. I used to skinny dip with others in the river, but now? I believe that Americans are looked at by the rest of the world (nudists), as being too fearful of shedding our clothes in front of others. Comments?