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10-20-2002, 08:12 PM
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Danny from INA and I just got back from the
beautiful Desert Shadows Resort in Palm Springs
California. The entire weekend we were there we
saw only one couple that were younger than 40.
I know this subject may have been addressed in
the past..but specifically why are younger
naturists not visiting nude resorts? They're not
nudists clubs, they're commercial ventures where
anyone is welcome!
By the way INA recently spent several weeks
filming at Palm Springs three nudist resorts. You
see the video on the latest edition of "Nudes in
the News"
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10-20-2002, 08:12 PM
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Danny from INA and I just got back from the
beautiful Desert Shadows Resort in Palm Springs
California. The entire weekend we were there we
saw only one couple that were younger than 40.
I know this subject may have been addressed in
the past..but specifically why are younger
naturists not visiting nude resorts? They're not
nudists clubs, they're commercial ventures where
anyone is welcome!
By the way INA recently spent several weeks
filming at Palm Springs three nudist resorts. You
see the video on the latest edition of "Nudes in
the News"
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10-21-2002, 02:12 AM
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quote: Originally posted by Bartamus:
[qb]..but specifically why are younger
naturists not visiting nude resorts? [/qb]
It's probably because their favourite celebrity isn't doing it. Or possibly because there's no mainstream advertising for nudist resorts.
It's sad but true, but much of what people (especially the young) do and wear these days is determined by the media. Make nudity look hip and cool, get it endorsed by some boy band, then young people (and older people who want to emulate the young) will flock to it.
Rik
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10-21-2002, 04:48 AM
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Hey Bart Dude
RT putting his penny in again, I can't answer for the USA but down here and I can only answer for myself, I prefer the sand under my feet, the taste of the salt water and the smell of the ocean.
I can still play volleyball, cricket and swim all at the beach and it's only a 15 minute drive away. If I wanted to go to a resort I would have to drive for hours.
I guess it is a tad different in the USA where the population live all over the fast land mass of the USA where as down here the majority of the population live on the coastline.
RT.
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10-21-2002, 07:10 AM
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Here in TX I have visited several resorts and am a member of one as well. Now that you mention it, while at the resorts I have seen very few if any of the young adults (18-28y/o) The children seem to have parents in mid/late 30's or older and there are usually a few teens. I am sure as prev stated if some big star were endorsing naturism or even talking about practicing it they would be more likely to attend.
I did notice that at Hippie Hollow in Austin TX the naturist croud is dominated by college age youth. Unfortuately there are also quite a few gawkers because it is a county park and not private. Cost may be a big factor. HH is a public park and actually free except for a $5 parking fee. I also noticed young people at San Onofre when I was there although not a large number.
Thanks to your efforts of recruiting and educating our youth I know that the number of American youth naturist will certianly grow in the near future! Keep up the good work! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]
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10-21-2002, 07:11 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Rik:
[qb]It's probably because their favourite celebrity isn't doing it. Or possibly because there's no mainstream advertising for nudist resorts.
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Don't discount my entire generation so quickly... I know there are a number of teens and twentysomethings out there brainwashed by the media, but I (and many of my friends) are not among them.
...or so MTV told me I should tell you ;-)
Seriously though, I don't go because I'm strapped for cash. $30-$40 is just too much for me sometimes.
I don't go to nude beaches because... well... the nearest one is probably an 8 hour drive away.
But to be fair, yes, some people will only swallow pills when they are coated in sugar. Teenyboppers will do it if Britney, Pink, or *NSYNC do it.
For many in my generation, taking clothes off is very easy to do physically, but the mind offers lots and lots of resistance.
Have a lovely evening, nude or otherwise,
Alex
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10-22-2002, 02:53 PM
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Alex,
I wasn't discounting an entire generation and in fact my veiled criticism was aimed at society as a whole which finds itself more and more obsessed by celebrity and image.
You say that you don't go to nudist resorts because they cost $30 or $40 but in my experience $30 or $40 is not very much to young people these days. Here in the UK you could easily spend that (and much more) on an evening's drinking, a few CDs, a pair of trainers, a Play Station game or even a ticket to see Britney. Of course, it's a question of priorities but it seems to me that priorities are often determined by peers, celebrities or the media.
However much I may criticize society in general for the shallowness its approach to life there's no getting away from the fact that this is the real world. Although I believe we're still some way from a universal approval of simple nudity I think the naturist movement (whatever that is) has an opportunity to use the media and celebrity to "sell" the benefits of naturism to the world in much the same way that so many other things are sold.
You also said in your post "For many in my generation, taking clothes off is very easy to do physically, but the mind offers lots and lots of resistance." Well I can't help feeling that you've hit the nail on the head! What does surprise me sometimes though, is the extent to which young people flaunt their bodies (and their sexuality) through, for example, skimpy clothing, bare midriffs, visible underwear, nipples showing through clothing etc and yet still need the "protection" of clothing at times when it is clearly unnecessary. Maybe you have a theory about that.
Rik
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10-22-2002, 08:14 PM
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Thank you all for some interesting responses.
RT is right as always. Naturists that live near
the beach have little need for resorts.
Alex is also correct. A lot of us don't live near
the ocean and would like to visit a world class
nudist resort but may not be able to afford it.
Still, we at INA believe younger naturist wannabes will discover beautiful places like
Desert Shadows with our help..and hopefully the
problem will rectify itself.
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10-25-2002, 12:16 PM
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It's true that most of the nudist resorts are geared towards people who have cash, ie older people. I'm lucky, I've always gone camping since I was a little tike and when I feel like getting naked I go on a hike and find a nice secluded beach by the river. Only in the summer of course. Not much comraderie, but then nobody will hassle or gawk either. If anyone happens to be in N. California this summer, I'll be happy to show you or direct you to some really good spots.
...but now I'm in Cleveland 'till May and being naked outside in Ohio in October is the worst thing one could wish on a person...
So if you're tired of nude beaches 8 hours away and resorts filled with oldsters- go explore.
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10-27-2002, 08:58 PM
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Well, 30-40 dollars is alot of money, but I've seen many young people wearing some pretty expensive clothes and shoes (mainly tennis shoes) not to mention the tatoos and what those cost since I left the Navy in 1975. And how 'bout the movies...you gotta take out a loan to get in and get some popcorn and a drink. But seriously...
What resorts should do, like the movie theaters and other establishments, is offer a student discount for these young nudists. Our goal is to bring in more young nudists to strenghten our organizations...we need to make it more accessible.
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