Should people found making love in tthe open air be a punishable offence?

yfenni · #1 05-13-2003, 08:03 AM

I ask this because to me it seems absurd that one of the most natural acts in the world and certainly the most beautiful if the couple are very much in love should be regarded as objectionable unless it is seen by very young children.

yfenni · #2 05-13-2003, 08:03 AM

I ask this because to me it seems absurd that one of the most natural acts in the world and certainly the most beautiful if the couple are very much in love should be regarded as objectionable unless it is seen by very young children.

Rik · #3 05-13-2003, 08:11 AM

No it shouldn't be a punishable offence but what has it got to do with naturism?

Rik

Stevedaoust · #4 05-13-2003, 08:45 AM

As anyone that has experinced sex knows, there are MANY shades of grey on this subject.
I think that sex in public should remain a private thing between 2-? people, in private.But that has been driller into our heads since day zero, so that's the norm. In certain parts of the african jungle, open sex is looked on as natural.
I personally don't like seeing people going at it, let's say, on a hill for all to see. Which I HAVE seen this at one beach in Michigan one time. Or one time when we DID manage our own time in nature and some guy walks by and thought it was ok to try to join in. WRONG.
Sex isn't a dirty thing but one that should be shared in private. As for being busted? The term grey shades come into play here also.
Steve

Trailscout · #5 05-13-2003, 01:04 PM

If someone has open sex at a nudist beach in a nation (such as the US) that has lots of people looking for an excuse to shut the beach down, then they should be confronted or reported to the police.

Let them have sex on the textile beach. We have worked too hard to lose our nude beaches.

stevenf64 · #6 05-13-2003, 02:08 PM

My first thought was what this has to do with nudism but hey what the heck heres my 2 cents....Yes if you get CAUGHT in public you should be punished...If you get caught then obviously you were doing it somewhere that you shouldnt be....I know all the arguements that its natural and all that BUTT what if a child were to stumble upon it....ok how about a 18 yr old how about a 15 yr old how about a 10 yr old how about a 6 yr old.... get the point anyone MIGHT catch you>>.
just my humble 2 cents
pss their are actually people who like the thought that they might get caught are you saying that they should get away with it???
Steve

Fresh Air · #7 05-13-2003, 02:13 PM

We live in a country (US) governed by laws. There are laws about sex in public places...and for good reason. I'd have to say whether they are punished or not should ultimately depend on the law. Though, hopefully, there would be some discretion by those who witness it, given context and situation. However, just because we are nudists or just because we might have access to more remote places does not mean we are free from the law. Remember, the laws are not to punish those who break them, but to protect those who are not commiting them.

We have to share our lives with others and just because we might not find something offensive does not mean others wouldn't.

On the flip side, a 'private' area does not have to be indoors. There are plenty of isolated spots where one can be nearly sure that no one else would be stumbling by. If you are not found, then you can not be punished [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

I've been able to partake in the pleasure of sex outdoors. It wasn't anywhere that I felt any other humans were near. If I was caught, I would certainly stop what I was doing and appoligize. I find it offensive when people have sex in plain view for all to see. It's not right in any context that way and it is actually harmful to the nudist cause.

Fresh Air

Trailscout · #8 05-13-2003, 09:05 PM

Fresh Air,

I agree with you. Privacy can be found in many outdoor settings.

As a Christian, I would be concerned that public sex in plain view on a beach will entice some onlookers to lust and offend others.

As a man, I would be concerned about the safety of my wife if we were making love in a public place.

As a nudist, I would worry that by having open sex on a beach, I would risk tarnishing the reputation of the beach, thence jeapardizing its nude status.

I don't have a bible verse for this, I just have a gut feel that even if none of the above were a problem, I would still prefer privacy in my most intimate moments with my lover.

Making love under a shrub or tree, well beyond any trails sounds like a little bit of Eden! Go for it.

nudeM · #9 05-14-2003, 05:02 AM

I see no problem having sex out in the open, as long as it is out of sight of others. Clearly, the ones who have sex on a beach, out in the open for all to see, they are the ones who I would consider offensive. But on the other hand, if they tried to hide their activity behind bushes, logs, etc., and they are caught, then who is in the wrong? I have stumbled on a couple having sex on a beach one time, but they were clearly out of sight. I was just walking in a isolated area. I just turned aroud and went back the other direction, leaving them to continue "unnoticed". If I would have stayed and watched, then I would be in the wrong by invading their privacy. But you know the laws, the open areas are for the general public to enjoy.

As for having sex on a nudist beach, then I would consider this inappropriate, and as stated, it would be more ammunition for the opposition to shut down the beach.

Ginge of Oz · #10 05-14-2003, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by yfenni:
[qb] I ask this because to me it seems absurd that one of the most natural acts in the world and certainly the most beautiful if the couple are very much in love should be regarded as objectionable unless it is seen by very young children. [/qb]

I find it very strange that we humans seem to find it easy to accept violence of all varieties being openly visible, but anything sexual, whether it be lovemaking, erections or, in the minds of most non-nudists, nudity itself, must be hidden away.

I have always thought we should make more love and less war, but these days the world seems to think the opposite!

Many cultures don't share the same opinions. I've mentioned in other posts on this forum the Trobriand Islanders of Melanesia. Their society openly encourages lovemaking, with absolutely no need for it to be done in private. However, it is forbidden to eat while facing another person! We Westerners may think that strange, but I bet they think our ways equally strange!

One can expect that, from time to time, whether in a nudist context or otherwise, an encounter with a couple making love is possible. I have never had sex in public myself, nor would I be likely to, but I can remember being about 19 or 20 and passionately kissing my girlfriend in a grandstand at a racecourse, when, all of a sudden, a pre-teen boy threw some rocks at us! We looked up, laughed, took a few breaths, and started again! Ah ... young love!

Be nude when you can, and peace be with you!