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Old 09-03-2002, 04:58 PM
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I was visiting Black's Beach over Labor Day and noticed probably 70 to 80% of the men there were nude. It got me thinking about the old days when men's swimsuits included a tank top. Finally, a new swimsuit for guys came along that eliminated the tank top. I'm sure at the time this was considered scandalous. When I thought about the number of naked guys at Black's over the Labor Day weekend it seemed to me that not only is nudity for men accepted it almost seems expected. Does anyone think that we may be approaching a time when nudity will be the new swimsuit for guys? Just as when men's swimsuits eliminated the tank top; will this become accepted as the new norm? What do you think?
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I was visiting Black's Beach over Labor Day and noticed probably 70 to 80% of the men there were nude. It got me thinking about the old days when men's swimsuits included a tank top. Finally, a new swimsuit for guys came along that eliminated the tank top. I'm sure at the time this was considered scandalous. When I thought about the number of naked guys at Black's over the Labor Day weekend it seemed to me that not only is nudity for men accepted it almost seems expected. Does anyone think that we may be approaching a time when nudity will be the new swimsuit for guys? Just as when men's swimsuits eliminated the tank top; will this become accepted as the new norm? What do you think?
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Old 09-03-2002, 05:36 PM
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There was a time when men were actually arrested for going "topless". As far as all men going suitless --

Couldn't happen soon enough for me! [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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Old 09-03-2002, 05:46 PM
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While I would like nothing better than to see swimsuits go the way of the Dodo bird, I don't it will happen anytime soon. Sure, at some beaches you may see 70-80% of the men nude but try any public swimming pools or pools at hotels, etc. Here is Austin, we are lucky enough to have "Hipple Hollow" where (adults) can go nude but nowhere else. The day I can nude at Barton Springs for example will be a day I would love to see. I agree - It can't be too soon for me. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img]
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Old 09-03-2002, 08:53 PM
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I would really like to see the day when this is possible but I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Actually the trend lately seems to be toward longer trunks down to the ankles practicly. I have found that the trend tends to go to the extreme end right before it reverses itself. If this is true then we may start to see it go back the other way soon with shorter trunks for men. When this happens then well maybe many years from now. Who knows anything is possible.
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Old 09-04-2002, 01:22 AM
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What a great idea. I see the point you are making about standards progressing towards accepted male nudity at beaches. In Australia in the 70's topless women sunbathing,swimming etc became accepted in our culture. They too were subjected to ridiculous neck to ankle 'swimsuits' years before. Slowly history shows us that as slight changes are made society are very accepting. However since most and possibly all laws around the '70's (and leading up to that) were passed by men it isn't a big surprise that these laws were passed. I'm guessing that a lot of politians weren't naturist/nudist at the time but may have been very welcome to the idea of seeing topless women on the beach.

I think the only thing that will stop legislation giving men (and women) total freedom to be nude on public beaches and swimming pools is that to the none naturist polititians it's less confronting to see unclad breasts (even though they are more prominent than the penis or vagina), dare I say it the pollies probably enjoy the perv! I feel the current laws are a disrespect to women based on these views.

On the other hand equal rights are in place...both men and women can go topless (though men can go anywhere, women only at the beach or they'll be in trouble...so there's even a discrepancy there).

It will be interesting to see if society takes the next step to acceptance of the natural human form in all it's beauty and innocence...will it happen in this lifetime? I hope so.

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Old 09-04-2002, 01:57 AM
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Hi Daz

Good to hear from you again.

I guess I'm too young to remeber guys having to wear full length boardies.

When I go to a non nude beach I wear boardies not speedo's but have speedo's under my boardies.

I don't know why I do this, I guess it's because it's the norm for non nude beaches for guys around my age.

Casey is the same, but when we were real young we use to wear speedo's when we were nippers at the local surf club.

Good to hear from you again, I haven't sent you any emails because I have deleted you email addy by mistake.

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Old 09-04-2002, 09:14 AM
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A friend of mine has a 14 year-old son on a swim team. He said that all the boys compete in knee-length baggy trunks.
I asked his wife about it and she said that the boys were too bashful to wear speedos.

I wore them until I was 16. It was beginning to be out of fashion, but the less you wear, the better you can cut through the water, so I preferred them to the more fashionable boxer trunks.

The speedo I wore did not hide the outline of my privates, but even the girls didn't giggle or stare. They were accustomed to seeing a male profile and it was no big deal.

When I was a teen, many families in my town used to swim every day in the pool at the local hotel. One of the girls, who was about age 12, never wore a top; she only wore a tiny bikini bottom. No one ever called attention to it, that's just how she chose to swim.

Are there more bashful kids at the pool than 30 years ago?
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I can't speak for other people, but my daughter is raising my grandkids to be very shy about their bodies. Unfortunately, there's nothing I can do about it.

When my granddaughter was pre-school age, my daughter would tell her not to run around in her underwear in front of her younger brothers--as if they would care at that age!

My daughter has always taken the youngest, the baby, into a room and closed the door to change his diaper. I don't believe any of my four grandkids have ever seen one another nude. I'd be willing to bet that my granddaughter doesn't know that boys are not built like her, and that my grandsons don't know that their sister is not built like them.

My nephew told me yesterday that he didn't think children should be in a nudist resort runniing around nude. I told him what the alternative is when children grow up with too much curiosity about the human body because they've never seen anyone nude. He had to agree with my logic on that. Be nude and have fun. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]
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Old 09-04-2002, 12:26 PM
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Thanks for your insightful responses. I too hope the day will soon come when both men & women will be able to go to a public beach and/or pool and be free to be nude. It is a great feeling not having the hassle of wearing a bathing suit. It is especially nice not to have to have a cold, wet swim suit stuck to you when you get out of the water. I have heard the "Y" used to offer a clothing optional swim for men but when it turned co-ed this option was dropped. I remember when I was in high school in the midwest the boy's swim classes required nudity as the acceptable swimsuit. It's sad that social nudity is still considered sexual (by those uninformed). Considering the 'top free' initiaive being stalled in the US, perhaps we are regressing instead of progressing. I guess we just have to keep on hoping. Thanks for your comments!
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