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This is starting to get scary folks. Do you suppose 'W' is preparing for an American "9/11" surprise?
You've probably heard by now about the "B-52 Mistake" last week. Where there was a big brouhaha in the Air Force because a B-52 bomber accidentally flew from Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale AFB in Louisiana with a load of nuclear cruise missiles aboard.
Uh huh
The problem is, a 'mistake' of this sort is almost inconceivable. It has been policy since 1968 that US aircraft are NEVER flown with nuclear weapons aboard. A certain number were kept loaded on the ground on alert until 1991 when George Bush Sr. ordered that even on alert nuclear weapons must be kept in nearby storage facilities separate from the aircraft.
How pray tell were the actual nuclear weapons 'accidentally' removed from storage, fitted to a B-52, and flown undetected across the country? A series of individual events that should NEVER happen without express orders from the highest authority?
We aren't done with this mystery ...
It seems that Barksdale AFB is the staging base for the Air Force's Middle Eastern operations. If the secret staging of nuclear weapons to Barksdale was not 'accidental', what purpose could it serve? Nuclear weapons would be of no use in Iraq, or Afghanistan. Where else? Where do you think?
Tehran
In April of last year, New Yorker investigative reporter Seymour Hersch wrote that the administration had the Pentagon planning a series of strikes against Iran in order to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons in 5 to 10 years. The plans include nuclear first strikes against Iran. When specifically asked about the report of plans for a nuclear strike against Iran, Bush replied "All options are on the table."
This story isn't about the discovery of an 'accident', this is about the leaking, very deliberate leaking, of the fact that we are staging nuclear weapons for use in the middle east. Probably someone who is horrified by the direction an irresponsible leadership is taking the military. Probably a high ranking officer. Someone who hopes that a little sunshine might stop a totally preventable nightmare.
I've been accused of wild flights of fantasy before on the subject of administration efforts to bring war to Iran. But the truth is that there is a war between the military and the White House, the military bitterly opposed to an Iran adventure, and a White House that is determined to remove the obstacles to its ambitions. So far the military experts have been able to forestall an Iran debacle. But they are being retired, removed and reassigned to 'harmless' duties for several years now. Every officer knows his or her career is on the line if they act in the best interests of their troops and the nation. It is questionable whether our best military guardians can continue to belay a massive Iranian attack.
A report from the front lines, from a Naval officer about the preparations to hit Iran:
We Are Going To Hit Iran. Bigtime
- "Yes. We're gong to hit Iran, bigtime. Whatever political discussion that are going in is window dressing and perhaps even a red herring. I see what's going on below deck here in the hangars and weapons bays. And I have a sick feeling about how it's all going to turn out." [/list]
-Mark
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On another thread it was noted that the 6th anniversary of 9/11 was coming up.
That is also the date of General Petraeus' congressional testimony to try to paint the dismal failure of the 'surge' as a success in progress.
It should be noted that if Petraeus and Ambassador Crocker are on Capital Hill on the 11th, it is unlikely that is the date Washington attacks Iran.
But if their visit is suddenly canceled or delayed ... watch out.
-Mark
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Last week The New Yorker reported that the Vice President has ordered a Media blitz to drum up support for war against Iran.- They [the source’s institution] have “instructions” (yes, that was the word used) from the Office of the Vice-President to roll out a campaign for war with Iran in the week after Labor Day; it will be coordinated with the American Enterprise Institute, the Wall Street Journal, the Weekly Standard, Commentary, Fox, and the usual suspects. It will be heavy sustained assault on the airwaves, designed to knock public sentiment into a position from which a war can be maintained. Evidently they don’t think they’ll ever get majority support for this—they want something like 35-40 percent support, which in their book is “plenty.”[/list]
UPI's David Isenberg details the media and neo-con brain trust response to the orders for a PR blitz: Outside View: A Sept. rollout for Iran war
Meanwhile the (London) Sunday Times reported that the Pentagon has completed plans for a 3 day massive airstrike against 1200 targets in Iran. Plans which a Naval Officer in a carrier attack group in the Gulf of Hormuz confirms are already being implemented.
-Mark
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Meanwhile the (London) Sunday Times reported that the Pentagon has completed plans for a 3 day massive airstrike against 1200 targets in Iran. Plans which a Naval Officer in a carrier attack group in the Gulf of Hormuz confirms are already being implemented.
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You've probably heard by now about the "B-52 Mistake" last week.
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You know I've heard this rumor before. It seems really far fetched to me. I mean we dont have the resouces to deal with the 2 wars we have already much less invading a country 3 times the size or Iraq. If you were to resurect ol' Custer and put him in command, well I guess it makes perfect sense however most military folks would look at it and go, Are you F***ing crazy?
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Originally posted by NudeAl:
You know I've heard this rumor before. It seems really far fetched to me. I mean we dont have the resouces to deal with the 2 wars we have already much less invading a country 3 times the size or Iraq. If you were to resurect ol' Custer and put him in command, well I guess it makes perfect sense however most military folks would look at it and go, Are you F***ing crazy?
You're right though but I have heard it phrased as 'Godda#m MotherFU@king Crazy' from the people still on active duty and you don't want to know what the veterans I know are saying about the possibility - there is not enough symbols to redact all the expletives they are using - the active duty people still have to remain circumspect to a degree you know.
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Originally posted by Sanslines:
Don't forget the reports that the Pentagon Brass is attempting to restart the cold war with Russia in order to justify and secure massive increases in defense spending.Mistakes are never made in General Curtis LeMay's SAC Air Force. This must be some diabolical plan hatched at the highest levels of government that reeks of pure malfeasence.Ahhh ... I don't think you quite get the drift of what is happening. This administration has been rushing headlong into another War for at least 3 years. We've actually had covert troops on the ground in Iran. We've had battle groups ready to strike. But the highest levels of military leadership have resisted this idiocy as ferociously as they can while still obeying orders.
It is known that a number of top generals have indicated that they will resign rather than carry out orders to attack Iran.
I don't think it is any accident that the moving of nukes was discovered. Someone in the military who is high enough up the chain to know exactly what is happening made damn sure that the secret staging of nukes did not stay secret. It might be insubordination ... or it might be a true patriot act .
-Mark
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For the love of God, tell me he's not that stupid! I know that Bush's buddies have (literally) made a killing in Iraq. The rich have gotten richer, and the poor are dying as per the plan, but surely; no one in their right mind would START another war right now!
My God!
Nuclear weapons???? This is maddness! And this guy claims to be a Christian?
Who would Jesus nuke?
Henry
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Ahhh ... I don't think you quite get the drift of what is happening. This administration has been rushing headlong into another War for at least 3 years.
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What's all the fuss about war resources?
Based the Administration's view on war resources prior to the Iraq war, the war with Iran will barely last a few weeks, cost less than 2 billion dollars, American troops will be greeted as liberators and will be home again within 6 weeks (any idea that they would have to stay longer than 6 months is preposterous!).
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An article on Yahoo on more sanctions as a result of listing the Qods unit of Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps as a terrorist organization still indicates that Condoleeza Rice's State Dept. is strongly behind negotiations over military confrontation with Iran--but this could come down to how much pull Cheney and the hard line neo-cons have ( can't for the life of me understand why he hasn't gone the way of Spiro Agnew long ago).
Senator James Webb has a bill in committee, S. 759, that would require the prior approval of Congress before "unprovoked" military activities in Iran (the companion legislation in the House is Walter Jones's HR. 14)
(news.yahoo.com/slnm/20070912/ts_nm/iran_usa_dc)
Peace
Kevin
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Looks like a convergence of events over the next week or two, let's pray it doesn't amount to a manufactured cataclysm. Another one. Seriously, if you have a God, pray.
I was afraid that it might be focused on the symbolic date of 9/11, thankfully that has passed. Another dangerous day is Friday, Sept. 14.
Even though most of the media is asleep, there IS a strong pushback in the military - the 'field trip' of the 6 nuclear weapons to the base that stages middle eastern operations was leaked from within the military hierarchy. Someone didn't want the restaging of nuclear weapons to the middle eastern theater to go unnoticed.
One of the consequences of that 'discovery' is that the Air Force will be conducting a standdown of all Air Combat Command forces - idling all their aircraft while over 100,000 airmen spend the day in the classroom to review operations and safety procedures and checklists. OK, an occasional safety day is not unprecedented, but it is quite unusual for it to be announced to the world on what day the skies of the entire nation will stand undefended. Let's hope that doesn't 'embolden' our enemies ...
Readers may recall that there were allegations of unusual market speculation just prior to 9/11, particularly with respect to American Airlines and United Airlines, where put calls were in some cases running 100 times higher than usual. In that case the 9/11 commission dismissed them as innocuous, to the consternation of skeptics. Well ... someone has bet One Billion Dollars that the stock market will crash by Sept. 21. The actual put option contracts were placed on the European DJ Eurostoxx 50 index, but clearly will only pay off in the case of a worldwide stock crash of 30 to 50 percent. The payoff should be about $4.5 Billion. Someone thinks they know something ...
Do I really believe that the balloon is about to go up? That there will be a major terrorist attack on the US, which will be designed to instigate the already prepared 3 day air assault on Iran.
No.
I do think it is possible ...
But I also think there are good people fighting like hell to prevent it. Military officers who cannot speak out publicly are attempting to move Heaven and Earth to short circuit this Iran idiocy. They have seen the fiasco in Iraq, and despite the continuing process of cleansing the officer ranks of dissenters, their ranks are continuously replenished by converts. Rumor has it that even General Patraeus' "boss" CENTCOM chief Admiral William Fallon has gone over to the skeptics side, and was quietly dropped from Congressional testimony even though he has appeared alongside Gen. Patraeus at least six times previously. Our military has an iron tradition of always following civilian authority, which makes it difficult, indeed nearly impossible to resist orders even from a poisoned regime, but there are strong elements of resistance both within the ranks, and especially among those recently retired (or fired). I think they are the only reason Bush hasn't expanded his war to Iran already.
We need to make the lapdog media shine some light on what is really happening. We need to make our Congressmen recognize it and speak out.
In particular you should contact your Senators and Representative this Thursday to express concern that it has been announced to the world that our air defenses will be on standdown this Friday September 14.
-Mark
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