Why so few women?

[Bengt]

Hi,

If you look around this and other similar sites, you'll find that those interested and active are men. Why is that? Are the women afraid of something? Aren't they interested? Are we men pervert in some way? Are we the only ones who can feel freedom without clothes? It would be interesting to hear women's opinion on this.

Bengan

[Bengt]

Hi,

If you look around this and other similar sites, you'll find that those interested and active are men. Why is that? Are the women afraid of something? Aren't they interested? Are we men pervert in some way? Are we the only ones who can feel freedom without clothes? It would be interesting to hear women's opinion on this.

Bengan

[krcNY]

There are many reasons...here are only a couple.

1. As a mom...life is busy and I am not able to post as often as I would like.

2. Sometimes I would like to post about family issues and most people here seem to be single men or men with a reluctant spouse. So I ask my questions elsewhere.

3. It seems as soon as a female posts, she gets bombarded with replies...(a lot have nothing to do with her original post)from the guys. We also get IM's and PM's from many pick up artists here...even being married I was getting quite a few...so I stopped posting for a couple months. I was getting sick of it.

I have more reasons for myself, and I am not sure about the single women. But at least this is a start.

[krcNY]

I would also like to add....I would not be a part of this forum if my husband was not here on the forums too. I would not go to a nude venue without him either.

[Sauna]

If you ask my wife, she answers smiling because somebody have to clean the house and make the meals while I'm with my computer. She has her own and hava all the skills needed. She joins nude venues with me and do not like clothes if weather allows.

[PascoDoug]

quote:

Originally posted by krcNY:
2. Sometimes I would like to post about family issues and most people here seem to be single men or men with a reluctant spouse. So I ask my questions elsewhere.

It would be great if you could get some of your nudist friends with families to participate on CFI. We do need more representatives from that group here.

[krcNY]

We have and they were chased off. Sorry

Some of the women don't feel they can speak freely here. I bite my tongue a lot.

Even a couple of the dad's left because of a thread. We were talking originally about one of the guys daughter's and the poster totally trashed the girl and the poster doesn't even know her. The dad was new to the forums and what he put up with was incredible. We are good friends with that family and he will not come back to CFI and I don't blame him one bit.

[Nude in the North]

There are just too many freaks out there. Guys that think a nudist female is someone asking for sexual advances.
I have seen it on this site, and I have seen it on the beach.
Too many men come here and to nude beaches for the wrong reasons. And I don't blame women for being on guard against them.
There might be 1,000 good men here with nothing but the purest intentions. But all it takes is a few morons to scare off the women.

Look at the list of members on this site. The first few pages are full of people that post on a regular basis. By page 6 some of them have only posted 50 times in over a years time. Getting down to page 14 you see people that posted a dozen times or less. And not much farther down the list there are the 100s of people that only posted once or not at all.

Why did they come here? Sure some of them may be shy, or too busy to come back. Some of them may have just lurked. They may be getting enough information without asking any questions or making any comments.

But you can bet that many of them came here looking to find an easy target for sexual advances. They looked for women posting, sent them private messages or emailed them. They were disappointed to find out that nudists are not a group of sex crazed weirdos trying to find mates. So they soon gave up and don't return.

Unfortunatly for the rest of us. They only accomplished one thing. They scared the women away.

There isn't much we can do about it except keep an eye on the kind of posts these guys make. But too many of them never even post. Only the women they contact know about it.
If this was a beach, im sure many of us would run to protect and defend any woman against some of these guys. But on here we can't see the problem. We do the best we can.

I hope the women let the moderators know who these guys are. It's the only way we can get rid of them and make this a safe place for everyone to enjoy conversation about nudism.

Steve

[True Brit]

"EXACTLY" nude in the north.

Far too many people are joining this site without making any contribution to the boards, in return they have access to an email directory listing male & female members from this site.

Since joining this site last year i have seen a number of females post less & less and even dissapear altogethor, rather sad i think!!

[Bengt]

quote:

Originally posted by freedom2be:
I guess I'm wondering - do you mean why the women members aren't posting here much or why aren't there as many women nudists as men...

Oh, I was talking about posting, being acive in the community. Women seem invisible, reluctant to give away their mere existance. I assume there are about as many women nudists as there are men, but looking around here gives an entirely different impression.

I can fully understand if women get intimidated by men contacting women through this site, and they don't belong here. I was merely curious, and I got a few responses, even from women Thank you. It seems to be a matter of a few rotten eggs in the basket...

[NudeAl]

I am sorry to see the way things are going with the number of families and females posting here on the decline. I wonder if we are doing everything we can to encourage a friendly environment to foster their input?

As the previous posts indicate it would seem we are not. Is there a system in place to screen potential negative IM's or PM's? I guess the only thing they could do is to disable that capability.

I also wonder if the current climate of intolerance in the outside world has affected our ability to interact here in a civil manner. It seems there is less and less area for others accept an opinion contrary to their own, to agree to disagree. No matter where you go you are bound to run into strongly held beliefs. Once you realize your ability to influence others with your words is severely limited you might as well just try to enjoy the discussion and not try to win the debate. In my opinion there is no right or wrong answer to many of the things we talk about here simply opinions. The key is to try to remain polite and participate in the topics you enjoy in non confrontational tones. Now topics of religion and politics will almost always bring forth the strongest of opinions but you are also not going to win many of those discussions due to the fact that we are tied to our own belief system by many other outside factors.

It has been said before that the anonymity of the online community gives some the freedom to behave in ways they wouldn't dare to in a real life face to face conversation. That can be both good and bad depending on the nature of the person. I would say if you wouldn't say it in a face to face conversation you should think twice before you say it online.

So in response to the original question, "Why aren't there more women on this site?" I would say they are to smart to engage in conversations that are likely to deginerate into name calling and mud slinging. Perhaps they have wisely determined there are better things they could be doing than trying to prove something to someone else they don't know and will never meet. Or maybe we haven't proven we are mature enough to have a polite conversation with.

[nudeM]

I believe that is why there is a thread that is exclusively for women. Males can read the posts, but cannot reply. It is sad there are some very 'sick' people out there who think this site is for 'pick-ups'. There are some females who post regularly and with good input. I just hope that they don't get chased from here as well.

[shãybare]

It would be great if everyone could post equally. Not going to happen unfortunately. Not unless human nature changes. The male is an aggressor when it comes to females.

As we grow older, some men are more able to control their emotions. Just not enough of us.

[Sauna]

Our club tries to keep the amount of female and male members equal. We have a little more men than women members all the time. Suprise but two last times we have had female majority in our sauna and swimming happenings. There is no good reason to it. I hope this continues and we can take more single male members.

[karrenlandry]

quote:

Originally posted by Bengt:
Hi,

If you look around this and other similar sites, you'll find that those interested and active are men. Why is that? Are the women afraid of something? Aren't they interested? Are we men pervert in some way? Are we the only ones who can feel freedom without clothes? It would be interesting to hear women's opinion on this.

Bengan

I've noticed this too. I think the lifelong conditioning of women to be attractive (for themselves but mostly, it seems, for men), to be thin, and to pimp themselves up in clothes that accentuate and show off certain body parts keeps them from feeling comfortable nude--along with all the other garbage men and women get about body image from day 1! Almost every woman I know outside the nudist lifestyle says she's "too fat" or "too shy" to come to a nudist event, or feels being nude would be a sexual thing. I don't quite get it, which is odd because I grew up with the same messages they did...somehow I've rejected most of them...and I know men get all kinds of messages about penis size, yet I've seen all shapes and sizes at the resorts, including tiny little things. Wish I had an answer for you.

On the positive side, I've never felt 'hit on' or even ogled when I'm nude. I've never felt threatened in any way by men (or women, for that matter) in a clothing-optional setting, and if I were, I would deal with them in the same way I handle 'threats' from men wearing clothes! The few times I've been confronted and the one time I was sexually attacked I was fully dressed and minding my own business. ??

karrenlandry