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If you tremble indignation at every injustice then you are a comrade of mine! We all warm our hands at fires others have built and drink from wells dug by those who came before us. We, each of us, have a moral obligation to keep those fires brightly burning and those wells flowing!
quote:Originally posted by LamontCranston:
99.724% of people in the USA have homes to live in... remarkable. Has that ever been true in another generation?
Depends on what you define as a home. Barely adequate shelter, old-people warehouses, tenements, flop houses, cinder block rooms, ticky tacky apartments and the like might provide one shelter against the label of homeless, but hardly rise to the level "having a home".
Furthermore, as is your wont, merely citing that something differs from that which is asserted does not invalidate the assertion.
In this case, even if more than 99% of Americans have some sort "home" does not mitigate the plight of those who do not. They are most often "damaged" people in some form or another and deserve our help and not some pitiless, self-satisfied snideness.
You're trying to hi-jack the thread. 'Taint happening. The issue is homelessness, the homeless and what, if anything, can we as a society do--not that all of us are not homeless.
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quote:ship them all to Hugo Chazvez...LOL
Ha ha ha!! Lets make fun of the unfortunate people!
Mental illness, divorce, medical calamity. Fun stuff!
-Mark
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quote:Originally posted by LamontCranston:
99.724% of people in the USA have homes to live in... remarkable. Has that ever been true in another generation?
Great news, I'll go mention this to the people at the shelter a few blocks down the road. It's sure to cheer them right up.
Dave
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quote:You're trying to hi-jack the thread. 'Taint happening. The issue is homelessness, the homeless and what, if anything, can we as a society do--not that all of us are not homeless.
I really feel that the homeless situation shows a lack of care by the gov't, be it local, state or national. While it is true that a certain percentage of the homeless are that way by choice, many of them are not and would do better with some form of help. Private organizations cannot do it all to solve the problem they didn't create. I think the economic situation in an area has a lot to do with the number of homeless, but I am not educated in the specialty that deals with situations such as this, so Just my thoughts for what they are worth.
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Another question to address is just how many are but one paycheck from being homeless as well. I bet the number would have a meteoric rise then.
Also another point ... most of the help and assistance those that are homeless or in substandard housing get comes from others in those substandard housing and out of that one paycheck.
Why is this national disgrace tolerated?
Where are those that could more readily aid those in need.
Who will come to your aid should you have need of it?
How do such detached from reality people develop?
What are we going to do about it?
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Interesting topic, since just last week, there was an article in the newspaper (local) of a homeless lady and her pregnant daughter. The reason they are homeless is due in large, is they are constantly being denied 'further' benefits, for they don't fit within the criteria. Sad, isn't it. I will try to find it and link the story.
Amazing, right after the story, the next paragraph down, it was announced there is a new program that will have funds to help these kind of individuals, that comes from the State. Apparently, it's another program that will start up, on top of other programs that aren't working already.
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Actually Dave, down the road in CT the Department of Social Services budget is $4.3 billion. That's an annual number that buys a lot of care, housing and feeding.quote:Great news, I'll go mention this to the people at the shelter a few blocks down the road. It's sure to cheer them right up.
Homelessness is not a news story. It's propaganda trotted out to coincide with the new Democratic leadership.
When the Republicans come in office we hear news stories about unnamed monsters requiring us to lock our doors and grow the defense budget.
When Democrats come on the scene, it's stories about homeless and downtrodden.
No? Here's my scientific predition: In the next week or two we'll hear about another evil corporate elitist caught cheating... just in time to talk about taxing the rich.
It's propaganda folks.
Or are you telling me that a government with a trillion dollar annual budget to work with can't find housing for 700,000 people? Really? There are probably 700,000 empty trailers rotting on the gulf coast as I write this.
Everything serves a purpose or it gets resolved. Even the homeless.
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....Mark...you missed my point...I was making fun of Hugo Chavez...LOL...as a former law enforcement officer..i know more than i want to admit about the homeless...quote:Originally posted by Naturist Mark:
quote:ship them all to Hugo Chazvez...LOL
Ha ha ha!! Lets make fun of the unfortunate people!
Mental illness, divorce, medical calamity. Fun stuff!
-Mark
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Along with homelessness - which is very real - is the topic of food insecurity.
Most people live so close to the edge financially that homelessness is a real but out of mind possibility.
Tokyo is not the only place where one's choice is between paying rent or buying groceries.
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quote:Originally posted by LamontCranston:
Actually Dave, down the road in CT the Department of Social Services budget is $4.3 billion. That's an annual number that buys a lot of care, housing and feeding.quote:Great news, I'll go mention this to the people at the shelter a few blocks down the road. It's sure to cheer them right up.
Homelessness is not a news story. It's propaganda trotted out to coincide with the new Democratic leadership.
When the Republicans come in office we hear news stories about unnamed monsters requiring us to lock our doors and grow the defense budget.
When Democrats come on the scene, it's stories about homeless and downtrodden.
No? Here's my scientific predition: In the next week or two we'll hear about another evil corporate elitist caught cheating... just in time to talk about taxing the rich.
It's propaganda folks.
Or are you telling me that a government with a trillion dollar annual budget to work with can't find housing for 700,000 people? Really? There are probably 700,000 empty trailers rotting on the gulf coast as I write this.
Everything serves a purpose or it gets resolved. Even the homeless.
Homelessness is not propoganda. It is a very real and present problem in America, and as I noted, in my neighborhood. I see homeless people in my neighborhood every day, talk to some of them regularly and, when I had more free time, volunteered at the shelter just blocks from my home (in one of the wealthiest states in the nation). These are very real people who receive little to none of the DSS budget. Rather than propoganda, it is a daily story that should be in the news more often.
Our government could find housing for 700,000 people, but it doesn't.
Oh, and by the way, the story of the Enron scandal was broken in Fortune magazine in March of 2001, during a Republican administration.
Dave
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