Dixie Chicks - Vindication

[usmc1 Diamond Member Find all posts View Profile Close usmc1]

Dixie Chicks take record and album of the year at Grammies..."Not ready to make nice!"

Early on this group stood up to this administration and were villified, shouted down, had death threats, had shows cancelled, radio stations and DJs refusing to play their music, and were characterized with some of the vilest filth imaginable.

They persevered and have won a victory for free speech for all of us who have been muzzled, shouted down, villified, called unpatriotic, threatened and marginalized because we dare to speak out and stand up to Neo-Facism.

I'll tell ya what, them there Texas Girls is something else!

You Go Girls!!!

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[usmc1 Diamond Member Find all posts View Profile Close usmc1]

Dixie Chicks take record and album of the year at Grammies..."Not ready to make nice!"

Early on this group stood up to this administration and were villified, shouted down, had death threats, had shows cancelled, radio stations and DJs refusing to play their music, and were characterized with some of the vilest filth imaginable.

They persevered and have won a victory for free speech for all of us who have been muzzled, shouted down, villified, called unpatriotic, threatened and marginalized because we dare to speak out and stand up to Neo-Facism.

I'll tell ya what, them there Texas Girls is something else!

You Go Girls!!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17105937/

[nacktman Banned Find all posts View Profile Close nacktman]

You know ... it is kind of funny how the truth all ways wins out, isn't it?!

All who have stood to tell the truth -- 'known and unknown' were treated as were the Dixie Chicks and all are being vindicated now.
(Though those that villified them are still trying to muzzle them ... those attempts are failing miserably.)

In the case of the 'Chicks' it is extremely hilarious that the very ones shunning them and trying to stop them from telling the truth still wanted the money from the sales of their records so they quickly and quietly began a promotion campaign (under the radar, of course), to build back up the reputation that they had so villified -- the result, well Five Grammys ain't chicken feed, and it is the very ones that shunned them that voted to award those Grammys to the Dixie Chicks.

Now the fact that the 'Chicks' have got the talent to put out a great album had nothing to do with it, now did it?!

[shãybare Silver Member Find all posts View Profile Close shãybare]

People responded with emotion rather than logic. Spock shakes his head in the futility of it all.

[UpstateNYBill Bronze Member Find all posts View Profile Close UpstateNYBill]

Of course I wonder did the Dixie Chicks critics ever consider the fact that they were giving the DC's free publicity when they were vocal about their boycotts against them?

Their critics probably gained the Dixie Chicks a following with people who would not be caught dead listening to country.

[brainyguy9999 Bronze Member Find all posts View Profile Close brainyguy9999]

Don't be confused. They won the awards for their music, not their political views. Or, at least they shouldn't have.

But I do want to ask if you are saying that their music wasn't good enough to win the award and they only won because of their political statements, or in spite of it?

If people win Grammies, Oscars, People's Choice, or other awards for their political views, then what's the point? Why not just have one award for "Best Politics of the Year"?

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[usmc1 Diamond Member Find all posts View Profile Close usmc1]

Confused?

They won for their music in spite of a concerted effort by radio stations, shrieking, screeching reactionaries from the right and cowardly concert promoters to shut them up and marginalize them and end their careers.

Even today, the jingoistic & pandering, Jim Bobs and yacka-yacka Billy Rays of country music radio and promoters are yammering their chicken fried heads off in backlash.

The attempt to muzzle, marginalize and shut down failed, for that I am thankful. Fan reaction and the awards indicate support of their music and political views and statments, or else both would have turned their back on them.

It's about the music and the politics! Both.

As to country music, it ain't no more. It all dance and pop based drivel. When Conway Twittty died and George Jones stopped performing and shooting holes in Tammy's front door, country music went away. He Stopped Loving Her Today, was the last great country song.

Wearing white cotton socks and ironed into a crease blue jeans with your shirt sleeves rolled up to mid-bicep, drinking Pabst Blue Ribbon and jukin' on payday Friday night--that's country.

Line dancing and Cotton Eyed Joe is damn-yankee imitation country.

And speakin' your mind and standin' by it even if it's about an sociopathic president intent on a Facist takeover; and making a lot of folks hottern a tar road in Laredo in August, hail yeah, that there's county too!

Naw, that ain't all that confusin'.

[nudeM Platinum Member Find all posts View Profile Close nudeM]

Posted by usmc1:

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As to country music, it ain't no more. It all dance and pop based drivel. When Conway Twittty died and George Jones stopped performing and shooting holes in Tammy's front door, country music went away. He Stopped Loving Her Today, was the last great country song.

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As an avid Country music listener, where have you been for the past thirty or so years? There have been many great hits, so Country is not 'dead'.

As for the Grammys and Country music goes, I lost their faith years ago when they awarded Lyle Lovett for an award for a song, album or artist that failed to even make the charts for that particular year.

For the past several years, the Dixie Chicks haven't been mentioned at any of the Country music awards shows that cater to only country artists, whereas the Grammy's cater to artists of all categories.

Off track, but I heard on the local radio station that later in the Grammy broadcast, when the Dixie Chicks started to rack up the awards, the audience was somewhat disperse. People had literally left, and this was reported by individuals who attended the show. Anybody else hear about this? If so, then this would be a huge embarassment.

[Naturist Mark Supreme Member Find all posts View Profile Close Naturist Mark]

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As an avid Country music listener, where have you been for the past thirty or so years? There have been many great hits, so Country is not 'dead'.

I think the point is that the music the country music industry produces these days isn't really country music - it is soft rock/pop music. The Dixie Chicks - who were long at the pinnacle of the country charts until music row turned against them - are the prime example.

Have you noticed that just about any 25 year old rock song can be (and often is) recycled as a country song? I shudder to think that hip/hop is just about 25 years old now ... Billy Ray Cyrus' Rapper's Delight anyone?

-Mark

NB: sorry Billy Ray, Neal McCoy has already covered Rapper's Delight in "Hillbilly Rap."

[NudeAl Gold Member Find all posts View Profile Close NudeAl]

I applaud the Dixie Chicks for their courage and perseverance. I think it is about time.

As to the sad state of country music these days... at the risk of sounding like an old fart I prefer the oldies like Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Waylon & Willi, Marty Robbins Patsy Cline, Chris LeDeux, Dolly Parton and way too many to list here. I can only find them on XM radio nowadays. But they are the sounds of true country that I grew up with and I prefer.

The so called new country is way to watered down and formula based for me. I refer to is as estrogen country as it mostly seems to be geared towards women. Just my opinion and I don't knock anyone for liking it just don't seem like country to this ol' boy.

[missouriboy Gold Member Find all posts View Profile Close missouriboy]

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As to the sad state of country music these days... at the risk of sounding like an old fart I prefer the oldies like Loretta Lynn, Merle Haggard, Johnny Cash, Waylon & Willi, Marty Robbins Patsy Cline, Chris LeDeux, Dolly Parton and way too many to list here. I can only find them on XM radio nowadays. But they are the sounds of true country that I grew up with and I prefer

Although it's limited to earshot of your computer speakers, you can get any kind of music you want... continuous, commercial-free, DJ jabber-free and COST-FREE. Just go to www.pandora.com and follow instructions.

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by nudeM:
Posted by usmc1: [QUOTE]As to country music, it ain't no more. It all dance and pop based drivel. When Conway Twittty died and George Jones stopped performing and shooting holes in Tammy's front door, country music went away. He Stopped Loving Her Today, was the last great country song.[/QUOTE

Then NudeM asks...
[QUOTE]As an avid Country music listener, where have you been for the past thirty or so years? There have been many great hits, so Country is not 'dead'.QUOTE]

Houston, San Antonio, Phoenix, San Francisco, Mid Missouri, East Texas, NYC, Detroit, KC, Grand Rapids, Fort Chaffee, Atlanta, Mexico, Padre Island, Del Rio, Nuevo Laredo, Saltillo Mexico, Canada, England, Ireland, Belgium, Holland, Denmark, Taos, Sante Fe, Luxemburg, Germany, Israel, Lebanon, Springerton, Carmi, Alton, E. Alton and Woodriver and Enfield Illinois and St Louis MO, San Diego, Tijuana, and I swear to God, at least one night on Barsoom and a Love's Truck Stop on Trafalmador.

And, I got to tell you, There was not one juke box playing anything even remotely close to country music, except maybe at the VFW in Springerton that plays nothing but 78s from the fifties, but ole Ernest Tubb singin' Ah'm Walkin' The floor Over You is getting a bit scratchy.

That's the palces I mostly remember being in the last 30-years, but, I admit, that some of it was in a drug and Tanqueray haze, and then there was that middle-east stuff where some SOBs were doing their best to make ole Mrs. USMC a widder woman. They failed. But, the Beckal valley has many tales to tell and that's a whole otehr topic that ain't even gonna get aired out here.

So, help me out, where've you been the last 30-years and what are some of these wonderful country music "hits" you refer to...Achey Breaky Heart?

[nudeM Platinum Member Find all posts View Profile Close nudeM]

Around here, there are some bars that still play many of the older hits i.e. Haggard, Cash, Lynn, Wynette, Jennings, Nelson, etc. (my preferred music). I have to admit, that 'kind' of music is a thing of the past, but there are some artists that play some of the older-type melodies/lyrics.

A newer style of Rockabilly I guess. In the 80's and 90's, names like Randy Travis, Alan Jackson, Lorrie Morgan, Marty Stuart, Reba McEntire, George Strait, etc., came along and, personally, did a pretty good job at trying to keep the traditional sounds. Hank Williams Jr., Charlie Daniels, Willie Nelson, are a link to the past, but they too are lost in the past, but still carry the sounds that made them legends.

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Hats off to the Dixie Chicks!!!!

In today's time, it is "refreshing" to see a group stand up for their principles. The DC's did!!! I supported them all the way!

I am glad they won awards for their music and for having the courage to be real!!

Allie

[tinhfwv Bronze Member Find all posts View Profile Close tinhfwv]

Being familiar with their music, I suspect the awards were based more on their politics.