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**Guest** · 07-17-2003, 03:19 AM

Hi Max. You're dead right. This idiot ought to have been locked up - if that behaviour doesn't constitute indecent exposure then I don't know what does.

Am I right in thinking that Studland Bay is owned by the National Trust?

Stu

**missouriboy** · 07-17-2003, 04:32 AM

There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right?

**MaxUK** · 07-17-2003, 09:02 AM

Stu,

I couldn't believe what I was seeing - sad ba****ds like him do need locking up. As Missouri Boy so rightly said - it's all in the 'behaviour' that goes on, same as anywhere really.

Having said that, I am still not in favour of open public nudity being allowed anywhere, as I consider some locations to be appropriate for nudity, most others not so.

I guess I subscribe to the view of 'appropriate behaviour in appropriate places', not just to naturism but just about anything else. I feel my views on what's 'appropriate' or not are fairly relaxed, but are no doubt different (or more conservative) to some people, including a good number that post here.

Oh, and yes, Studland is owned by the Nat. trust but it seems they are trying to sqeeze the naturist zone into a smaller and smaller area, from what I read of the situation from the official studland naturist website:

www.studland-naturists.co.uk

Max

**MaxNik** · 07-17-2003, 09:48 AM

other than doing what you did, there doesn't seem to be much more that could be done. there always will be creeps like this around so you have just illustrated a way to deal with them, without being confrontational...which could have resulted in a fight.

**Guest** · 07-17-2003, 10:24 AM

Missouri

"There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right?"

Not under English Law. Here we have two statutory offences of indecent exposure, either of which would have sufficed in the circumstances Max describes. It is a pre-requisite of both, however, that the offender "exposes his person". Neither of these offences would be appropriate for a simple nudist even if he or she were in a public place. The appropriate charge for that would come under section 5 of the Public Order Act 1986 - "insulting behaviour likely to cause harassment, alarm or distress".

MaxUK

"I guess I subscribe to the view of 'appropriate behaviour in appropriate places', not just to naturism but just about anything else."

Me too!!!!

"Oh, and yes, Studland is owned by the Nat. trust but it seems they are trying to sqeeze the naturist zone into a smaller and smaller area"

Now the National Trust should be canvassed about that. There are precious few designated beauty spots for naturists in the UK as it is without reducing the places you guys can go still further. I hope there is a campaign to keep this place clothing optional. I'd sign a petition to that effect!

Stu

**Gary Naturist** · 07-17-2003, 11:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by missouriboy:
[qb] There ya go, Stu! It's a good example of why 'indecent exposure' is a misnomer. It ought to be 'indecent behavior' instead. The indecency of this man's actions would be the same even if he happened to be fully clothed at the time, right? [/qb]

Missouriboy, I agree with you 100%. It's the behavior, not the clothing choice, that is indecent and that should be illegal.

Gary

**NUDKIWI** · 07-17-2003, 12:50 PM

These sorts of idiots get nude beaches closed.Max you done good in the way you dealt with the situation but i wonder if a direct confrontation would have ended in a fight.I believe if you had confronted this spineless sexually depraved excuse for a human being he would have turned tale and run ,hopefully with your boot up his backside.Get these sex fiends off our beaches and give them back to the sunlovers and families.Maybe a group of locals forming a beach warden group could be an idea.

**Prometheus** · 07-17-2003, 01:45 PM

It's easy to think what we would have done in that situation, but actually being there is another story. But I will say this:

MaxUK, there probably wasn't much more you could do by yourself. If you had walked straight up to the guy and told him to get lost, he might have fought back or at least started an argument. However, if there had been more than one of you, he probably would probably have left quickly.

**Fresh Air** · 07-18-2003, 12:27 AM

MaxUK,

I think you handled the situation well. I never thought the confrontation thing through, but I suppose it could result in a fight. Especially if the beach is secluded.

Mission accomplished, even though the results would have been better if the guy left, at least the sickness of it diffused.

Another good way I have seen it handled is by going to the woman being "violated" and inform her of her situation. This allows her to handle it how she sees fit and gives her an ally at the same time.

Fresh Air

**greensunshine** · 07-18-2003, 06:13 AM

Geez I deal with lots of these creaps every time I go to the beach on a nice day...seems the most effective tool I take with me when it comes time to take care of the situation is a Very Sharp Tongue...most of the time these jerks get the message and either leave the beach or simply go further down where they are in the company of others who too like to behave accordingly...

*Note many of my male friends down feel the same...nudity shouldn't mean the same as stupidity...as some of these creaps think when they get a little freedom down there (Greensunshine points to the part of the anatomy causing the problem).

Nothing can be so cutting as sharpe words nor more effective [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_redface.gif[/img]

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

**Guest** · 07-18-2003, 07:30 AM

Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police.

Personally when I've been in similar situations I confront them once, tell them this isn't the place and tell them I will call the police if it continues. I also usually carry a camera. I tell them I've taken their picture and that the police will get it and that I will also post the pic on the Internet and expose him as a wanker.

If we let these guys get away with doing this on our nude beaches they will eventually be shut down. Protect your beach before it is too late.

The most sucessful nude beaches here in the US have people who defend them from the wankers. They form organizations and patrol the beach, reporting people who can't behave. South Floida Free Beaches is the most well known beach that does this. Because people know that behavior isn't tolerated in time they stop coming (and cumming).

**Jochanaan** · 07-18-2003, 08:20 AM

At first I thought, "First offense, warn him but don't call the police." But then I realized that it most likely wasn't the first offense at all, and even if it were, the man--and I use that term loosely--probably would simply go elsewhere to do his thing (no pun intended--yeah, right). Call the cops, by all means--phone, laptop, scream...

And if anyone wants to blame his penis, that's no good. I have one too, and it works just fine, but I don't do what he did, neither do an overwhelming majority of men. The trouble is in his mind, not his member.

**Prometheus** · 07-18-2003, 04:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cyndiann:
[qb] Max did not do everything he could have. Max was very wrong for not calling the police.[/qb]

I'm not familiar with UK beaches, but are there even any police to call? Is this an official c/o beach, or is it just one that exists because the authorities choose to ignore it completely?

If there are rangers or lifeguards around, I would be all in favor of calling them. In my experience, nude beaches are completely un-policed (except by the beach "mayor" and company), but I guess that isn't the case in other areas.

**Jochanaan** · 07-18-2003, 08:08 PM

BTW, does anyone know how Studland got its name? It seems this name would have an unwelcome connotation for naturists.

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