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**Bob S.** · 06-28-2003, 10:03 PM

A while ago, Bob Roche did an interview with Esquire Magazine concerning the dos and donts in nudism. One of them really hit a nerve with me (as I am sure it will with a number of you out there). And while reading this, keep in mind that Bob Roche is the President of the AANR-ER as well (as the owner of White Tail Park).

"Don't get an erection. It's rude. Nudists don't get erections unless they want to get erections. If you can't help it, hide it behind one of your towels."

He is totally misrepresenting nudism. He is basically saying that we will never get erections and is almost chastizing anyone who gets one. Is this the philosophy of the AANR as a whole? How will this fly in the textile world?

Bob S.

**naturalradio** · 06-29-2003, 01:54 AM

Good Post!

Natural Radio Online this 4th of July weekend will be talking with AANR. They will be at our home resort for reviews & such! We will ask this question & see how they respond!

Natural Radio Online

**Prometheus** · 07-02-2003, 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by Bob S.:
[qb] A while ago, Bob Roche did an interview with Esquire Magazine concerning the dos and donts in nudism. One of them really hit a nerve with me (as I am sure it will with a number of you out there). And while reading this, keep in mind that Bob Roche is the President of the AANR-ER as well (as the owner of White Tail Park).

"Don't get an erection. It's rude. Nudists don't get erections unless they want to get erections. If you can't help it, hide it behind one of your towels."

He is totally misrepresenting nudism. He is basically saying that we will never get erections and is almost chastizing anyone who gets one. Is this the philosophy of the AANR as a whole? How will this fly in the textile world?

Bob S. [/qb]

Bob, was this in response to a question, or part of a "Dos and Don'ts" list?

Roche's response definitely seems well-rehearsed, almost too much so. I have heard of AANR clubs that operate by rules like that, but I find it hard to believe they all do.

My advice to Roche would be to explain the range of viewpoints on the topic rather than one specific one. I would have liked to hear something like "It depends on the people you are with (or resort or whatever). Some won't like it and will want you to cover it up. Others might not care as long as you don't flaunt it."

This question/topic seems to be on every nudist's scripted list of things to say to the media, and vice versa. Can't we PLEASE think of something less annoying to talk about? Either way, most of the textile world probably just thinks "ewww" whenever they hear about nudists, regardless of the topic. Unfortunately, our education campaign seems to be making little progress...

**greensunshine** · 07-03-2003, 07:39 AM

Hmmmm, Let's See...The Topic is Erections and Nude Recreation [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]

As a female who is a regular at one of the local nudist beaches, I from time to time see guys walking around with "Woodies/Erections". While some of these can be controlled, some are simply the result of the various conditions in area...i.e...Another individual who has caught their attention, having to go and relieve themselves, whatever...

But my general experience has been if it is offensive to the person viewing the situation, and handled properly, such as the erection being brought to the person who has it, the erection quickly goes away in one way or another...often either the person leaves or the woodie deflates on its own without to much embarrasement.

Personally, I think the best form of control comes from those who practice/police their own, not a bunch of extra rules that never get read...all chastising really does is make the situation worse in the case of the clubs...no wonder so many nudist flock to the beaches in the summer and not the clubs [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_rolleyes.gif[/img]

Greensunshine in the Pacific NW [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

**Bob S.** · 07-04-2003, 10:07 PM

Prometheus, this was a part of a do and don't list. Most of the items on his list were good. This one was the most incredulous. He did make another strange comment where he said that towels are important to nudists. And in fact, "Any self-respecting nudist will go through about 20 towels in a day."

I don't know. I find him to be a bit aloof and somewhat impersonal to those whom he does not know. And just so you know, his nudist park seems to be one of the more conservative, is nudity-mandatory (save for the weather) and does not allow piercings. So maybe his attitudes are just on the conservative side.

Bob S.

**Prometheus** · 07-04-2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bob S.:
[qb]And in fact, "Any self-respecting nudist will go through about 20 towels in a day."[/qb]

[img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] I don't even own 20 towels!

**Trailscout** · 07-05-2003, 07:37 AM

Greensunshine,
I would think that 30 seconds in the frigid Pacific surf would be enough to quiet most tumescence.

I think intermittent erections of the half-mast sort are quite common and no one bats an eye. We don't want to see men savoring them and strutting around like roosters with one stiff enough to hang a hat from. You can tell an idiot when you see one even from 30 yards.

I think that the 20 towel quip is gross exaggeration for purposes of a sensational soundbyte. In my part of the USA, the summer sun dries a towel in about an hour. I carry three. One for lying on, one for use when I get out of the pool and a spare to use while towel two is still drying.

**stravo** · 07-05-2003, 12:19 PM

Greensunshine said: But my general experience has been if it is offensive to the person viewing the situation, and handled properly, such as the erection being brought to the person who has it, the erection quickly goes away in one way or another

Ahem, uh Greenie, how does one handle the offensive member properly? And what did you mean by "the erection being brought to the person [male?] who has it..."?

Are you on the Eastside or Wetside? I know you mentioned the beach, but we have a nude beach, sorta, in Spokane: Peoples' Park. I'm guessing your on the Sound or thereabouts.

Stravo? Spokane?

**Guest** · 07-05-2003, 02:39 PM

Since the resort where I go has a "clothes" dryer, I take two towels, my 5 foot long AANR towel for sitting on, and a towel for drying myself. That's all I need. Oftentimes, I can dry it outdoors, although I did have a towel stolen from me once.

Since I only own about 5 towels, and only take 2 to the resort, does that mean I'm not "self-respecting"? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]

**Fresh Air** · 07-05-2003, 03:33 PM

I speak for myself, but I do have some control over my erections. If I feel one on the way, I can usually stop it before it happens. Not everyone is the same though.

I sort of agree with him in that there is no reason why a full errection should ever be in plain view for all to see. If it can't be controled mentally, then control it by other means.

About the 20 towels...isn't that enough to make some sort of clothes out of? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_razz.gif[/img]

Fresh Air

**Hokienudist** · 07-05-2003, 10:41 PM

Just from my little dealings with him and reading some of the policies from White Tail Park... i'd have to say he's about as conservative as nudists get. If his club wasnt the only one in virginia, then i think he'd be less conservative.

There's only so much you can take of the attitude that he seems to portray.

**missouriboy** · 07-07-2003, 05:42 AM

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Originally posted by Jon-Marc:
[qb]Since I only own about 5 towels, and only take 2 to the resort, does that mean I'm not "self-respecting"? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img] [/qb]

Right on, pal. I just made a 3-day, 3-night weekend nude with only two towels, and they both came home "clean." I know there is no problem with my own self-respect, and while I have no particular issues with Mr. Roche, I think he should be more careful about making such inane remarks to the public. Especially whenever they are looking to him as a sort of "official" spokesperson.

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