What Has Genital Shaving Got To Do With Naturism?

[Rik]

Just for fun..

[Rik]

Just for fun..

[triaduw]

last I checked it was impolite to try to offend someone just because you didn't agree. Personally I think ina should remove your poll because it is offensive.

[Rik]

Offensive to whom? Didn't you see the words "Just for fun..."?

[Guest]

It didn't offend me since it did say "Just for fun". Of course, you do seem to assume that everyone loves a "smarta--" since there isn't a "no" answer. Anyway, a little humor is good, and there's no better sense of humor than that of a person who can laugh at himself.

I suppose some can say your poll was one sided since you had no positive answers, but no one has to particpate in any poll if they don't want to do so. I ignore anything that doesn't interest me. I try not to reply to it and criticize the person for writing it. I did once, though, when a woman wrote a very detailed description of what she and her cousin did together.

Be nude and have fun. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img]

[Bartamus]

Rik: I understand your contempt of the genital
shaving posts, but to use one our new poll
question formats to express it..is not a good idea.

[gamblefish]

I found this poll to be extremely humorous. But then again...I don't shave...

[Rik]

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Originally posted by Bartamus:
[qb]Rik: I understand your contempt of the genital shaving posts, but to use one our new poll question formats to express it..is not a good idea.[/qb]

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Hi Bart. OK. Point taken. I won't do it again (well not while you're looking anyway [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] )

I'm not contemptuous of off topic posts (I've contributed enough of those myself) nor am I in any way contemptuous of genital shaving but having raised the issue before about the relevance of shaving to naturism, and never having received a satisfactory response despite the huge number of posts about shaving, I thought I'd try to tackle it another way.

As far as I can see the only relevance it has to naturism is whether or not it's acceptable (a big "yes!" there I think) so all the posts detailing the minutiae of "how" and "why" are off topic. But - and this is my real concern - it feels sometimes like those who advocate shaving see it as an integral part of naturism, but to many people (myself included) it feels like naturism is being hijacked to be used as a vehicle for exhibitionism by those who seem to be so obsessed with their genitals that they feel others should share their fascination. There is a fine example of this at the website of one of your regular contributors who, in his signature, urges us to visit it presumably so that we can be as awestruck with his penis as he appears to be.

My question was genuine (even if my humourous approach to asking it did not receive universal acclaim) because I'm humble enough to recognise that my preconceptions on this issue may be wrong. I genuinely would like to understand how people make the connection between shaving and naturism.

Sure it's personal choice, sure it maybe feels good, sure it maybe looks good but why use naturism to promote it?

Incidentally I'm surprised that so many people actually responded to the poll but perhaps it's an indicator that there's plenty of others who are equally mystified.

Rik

[Bartamus]

Rik: I too am mystified about the obsession with
genital shaving. I dare say it has surpassed the
standard nudist questions guys pose about erections. I don't get it!

[luvnaturism]

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Originally posted by Rik:
[qb]Just for fun..[/qb]

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Rik, I almost never do polls, so I didn't vote...but yours is hilarious. I think its "right on" as a way to express a point of view. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

[Bob S.]

Hey Rik, I'll actually answer your question without voting.

Where else can people talk about shaving their pubic hair and not sound like a pervert? Since nudism is about the naked body, people are going to ask quetsions about how others who practice it feel about shaving. And since in most of society showing the genital region is illegal and considered pornographic and perverse, they cannot simply ask just anyone how they feel about shaving the pubic hair.

When you have a quetion about a certain topic, you go to the source that will most likely know about it. Genital shaving has nothing to do with nudism, it has to do with personal preference just as any other body alteration. But realize that these people who are asking about it are already nudists, since they have come to a nudist website, and are just asking for others' opinions about this topic that means something to them.

Why not come up with a topic that asks what religion has to do with nudism? Or what art has to do with nudism, or being married, single or other parts of one's life has to do with nudism? Nudism is about being naked. People who are interested in nudism either as a lifestyle or a pasttime have lives outside of their naked states. They do other things, have differing opinions, and practice different hygeine from other people.

What has genitla shaving to do with nudism? About the same as it has to do with textilism.

Bob S.

[Rik]

Hi Bob S

Thanks for the response.

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[qb]Where else can people talk about shaving their pubic hair and not sound like a pervert? [/qb]

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Well they could try the very excellent Shavers Forum at www.shaversforum.com subtitled "A forum for fans of intimate shaving" which was the first page returned from a Google search with the words "genital" "shaving" and "forum". This forum is very active with lots of good advice and serious discussion as well as plenty of links to related sites such as titzandslitz.com, russionhole.com, pinkcentrefold.com etc.

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[qb]Genital shaving has nothing to do with nudism, it has to do with personal preference just as any other body alteration. But realize that these people who are asking about it are already nudists, since they have come to a nudist website, and are just asking for others' opinions about this topic that means something to them.[/qb]

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Well just because they've come to a nudist website it doesn't follow that they're nudists and just because they're nudists doesn't mean they should use a nudist website to discuss things which, as you agree, have nothing to do with nudism. If I started to open topics about, say, painting my toenails or breaking wind in public you might humour me for a while but eventually you'd ask "What has this got to do with naturism?

Having said that, my point is not so much that shaving is discussed here but that the volume and content of postings (as well as my contact with naturists outside of cyberspace)leads me to the conclusion that some, many or most people who shave appear to believe it is an integral part of naturism whereas it feels to me they are using the banner of naturism to justify their exhibitionism. If my feeling is shared by others, and particularly by non-nudists, then they are surely bringing naturism into disrepute. Is this what we want?

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[qb]Why not come up with a topic that asks what religion has to do with nudism? Or what art has to do with nudism, or being married, single or other parts of one's life has to do with nudism? [/qb]

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As far as religion is concerned you'll find that most of the discussions debate (somewhat endlessly [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] ) this very theme in that people look for religious justification for their nudist lifestyle.

Art? Well there's another thread here about the covering of Michaelangelo's David with a plaster grape leaf. This is relevant to naurism because it discusses the public's perception of the naked body (albeit a sculptural one) but I can't recall any other postings which discuss art. Is this because there are no nudist artists or is it because they recognize that discussing art is better done at, say, www.artforum.com?

Being single? Don't start me on that one. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

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[qb]
What has genital shaving to do with nudism? About the same as it has to do with textilism.[/qb]

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Exactly.

Rik

[Guest]

Hi Rik.....I'm an artist,and I know at least 2 other participants in the forum are interested in art as it relates to naturism. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

[Guest]

Are there any topics left that havent been discussed to death since this forum was established?New forum participants are only going to be lured in to participate more fully if the most popular topics are currently discussed.

[Bob S.]

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Having said that, my point is not so much that shaving is discussed here but that the volume and content of postings (as well as my contact with naturists outside of cyberspace)leads me to the conclusion that some, many or most people who shave appear to believe it is an integral part of naturism whereas it feels to me they are using the banner of naturism to justify their exhibitionism. If my feeling is shared by others, and particularly by non-nudists, then they are surely bringing naturism into disrepute. Is this what we want?

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Oh, I don't disagree with you that this topic is overdone to say the least. I, too, am getting tired of seeing the same question being asked over and over again. Maybe there should be a message in the main forums page that tells people to look at the other messages in the forums before asking questions; espcially when it comes to these FAQs such as shaving and erections.

And I am sure that some people do shave for the exhibitionist qualities of it, but the majority, IMHO do it because it just feels right to do it, just as they would shave their facial hair, they see no difference in shaving their pubic hair.

I wonder, though, which confession someone would be willing to make first:
That they are a nudist, or
That they shave their pubic hair? (assuming they do both)

Bob S.