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**DoctorSurferDude** · 08-18-2005, 04:45 PM

I was looking up prices on their website....and was disappointed to find this announcement....

"OK LADIES, JUST A FEW SHORT DAYS AWAY FROM THE 26TH WHEN JT & ZOLT AND COMPANY WILL BE BACK IN THE CLUB FOR OUR MALE REVUE. THE GUYS WILL PERFORM FROM 7:30 to 9:30 AND THE DOORS WILL OPEN AT 7 SO YOU CAN GET A GREAT VANTAGE POINT. TICKETS ARE ON SALE AT THE FRONT DESK SO COME ON IN AND BUY YOURS TODAY."
http://www.calienteresort.com/n/club/blather.htm

Seems like a conflict of interests to me....and not the first that I'm aware of from Caliente.

What are your opinions?

**Trailscout** · 08-18-2005, 04:50 PM

AANR has repeatedly said that they can't take action if no one complains to them. Don't just complain, complain to AANR! AANR's annual meeting was at Caliente last week.

I cannot guarantee that AANR will do anything if you complain, but I can guarantee that nothing will happen if no one complains to them.

If AANR does nothing, we have a much bigger problem and that may require forming a new organization that demands accountability of member resorts and clubs. Are we at that point yet?

**MJ_KC** · 08-18-2005, 04:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by freedom2be:
Let me get this straight - people are going to buy tickets at a nude resort to see men take their clothes off? What a deal!!!

Can you earn enough to offset your admission fee?

**Ben_m** · 08-18-2005, 06:42 PM

Bizarre ! Isn't trying to sell strippers at a nudist resort about like trying to sell water to a drowning man (or in this case, apparently woman)?

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

**Guest** · 08-18-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally posted by Ben_m:
Bizarre ! Isn't trying to sell strippers at a nudist resort about like trying to sell water to a drowning man (or in this case, apparently woman)?

This makes absolutely no sense to me.

I tend to agree with Ben. It's a non-issue. Who knows -- maybe the guys begin the routine fully nude and then slowly begin to dress, sensually fitting their dress shirts under their pants; casually but erotically tying their neckties, etc...

**Guest** · 08-19-2005, 01:34 AM

All the male stripper shows I've been to, the guys didn't get totally nude anyway. They only went down to a G string.

They would be laughed at if they did that at Caliente.

I don't see any conflict of interests. Why should nudists not be "permitted" to act like the general public and enjoy a strip show? It's late at night in the nightclub just as a show outside the nudist walls would be.

God forbid we actually admit that sexy can be a good thing!

**Nudony** · 08-19-2005, 06:09 AM

That's why I prefer to stick to rustic, "nuthin-there-but-a-pool-n-hot-tub" resorts. The problem with larger scale, commercial resorts is that they tend to go with "where the money is." If you want to see strippers and other "sexy" shows, why not just drive downtown where the "action" is? Why would you want to see that at a nudist resort?
There's nothing wrong with sexiness; I have met quite a few "sexy" nudists, who were all intelligent enough to be mindful and respectful of the people around them. But "stripper-sexy" is another ballpark altogether.
I'll just stick to my rustic resorts.

**barmonkey** · 08-19-2005, 06:18 AM

The nightclub at Caliente seems to be mostly non-nudists on Friday and Saturday nights. I was there in July, and during one song, there were 5 girls dancing on the stage. One of the girls was topless, and she was trying to get the other girls to dance topless with her. None of them could bring themselves to do it. They were definitly not nudists. I felt out of place being naked in there. I guess what I'm trying to say is that there are plenty of textiles who hang out at Caliente for the nightclub, and this is probably the crowd they're trying to attract with this strip show.

I also agree with Cyndiannaked. It's all good fun.

**barbararuth** · 08-19-2005, 06:38 AM

Caliente is not your typical family-oriented nudist resort. They have set themselves apart by providing amenities that may cater to the younger, more financially secure nudist on vacation. Unlike many resorts, the nightclubs and restaurants are alive and kicking at night with lots of sexually-charged activities.. sexy lingerie parties, male strippers, etc. They are undoubtedly designed as entertainment.

As nudists, we may look at it as "going against the ideals of naturism" in the purest sense, but I believe the resort is more concerned with filling rooms and packing the club at night. I believe that pure naturism takes a back seat here to entrepreneurism!

**nakednudists** · 08-19-2005, 06:42 AM

Well said barbararuth!

**Hooked** · 08-19-2005, 08:16 AM

I understand that Caliente can do whatever they want b/c it's a free country BUT they are in danger of losing their AANR affiliation and family clients. Lots of clubs have decided to take that loss and go on with it. I, perrsonally, think that's a shame. It's too bad Caliente doesn't have a higher standard. This is the type of thing that would make me choose a different resort for my vacation and like others have said, it's stupid to have strippers at a nudist resort where everyone is already naked. They can do what they want but I'm going to choose AANR clubs for my vacations so I hope everyone is happy in the end.

Question: Why do the nicest clubs always end up resorting to strippers, beauty pageants and lifestyles conventions? The same thing happened at that Ponderosa Club and also here in Texas at I think it was called Live Oak or something like that. Supposedly the nicest club in Texas started doing swinger parties and biker rallies. Do these events really generate more money than families of nudists coming and visiting the park every weekend instead of just for special events?

**SunGod** · 08-19-2005, 08:30 AM

Ok, strippers at a nude resort is kind of dumb, but I'll bet the act is good, and I'm more then confident the stars of the show are in better shape then most of the men @ Caliente. So, take it for ALL that is it, a little fun and entertainment for the ladies. Its not about low standards, unless your some moralist who thinks strippers are evil or something. Realize that family dollars dont come in large enough sums and often enough to run places like this. You have to be a business man and go where the $$$ is. I dont think Caliente can do wrong as long as they dont start hosting swinger parties.

**SunGod** · 08-19-2005, 08:32 AM

sexually charged activities - does that include sexual intercourse ?

Your kidding right? Arg!

**need2Bnude** · 08-19-2005, 09:18 AM

I think stuff like this has its place, and to me that would be outside of a nudist resort. Because alot of people cannot seperate nudity and sexaully charged nude desires, this type of activity can only charge the sexual side (perverted if you will), I had a heated arguement with a friend last night after he said any kind of desire to be nude is purely perverted. If he saw caliente resort doing what they do; I would have a tougher batttle on my hands.

quote:
Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:
I was looking up prices on their website....and was disappointed to find this announcement....

"OK LADIES, JUST A FEW SHORT DAYS AWAY FROM THE 26TH WHEN JT & ZOLT AND COMPANY WILL BE BACK IN THE CLUB FOR OUR MALE REVUE. THE GUYS WILL PERFORM FROM 7:30 to 9:30 AND THE DOORS WILL OPEN AT 7 SO YOU CAN GET A GREAT VANTAGE POINT. TICKETS ARE ON SALE AT THE FRONT DESK SO COME ON IN AND BUY YOURS TODAY."
http://www.calienteresort.com/n/club/blather.htm

Seems like a conflict of interests to me....and not the first that I'm aware of from Caliente.

What are your opinions?

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