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**butnaked** · 10-22-2003, 12:36 AM

While our children were not raised in a nudist home they know my wife and I are nudist.

Now, they say that do not have a problem with our nudism. We wish to have our grandchildren (all less than five years old) experance nudism with us and go to our family nudist club. How should we go about this, I believe it is the parents rights to decide and we should explain our wishes to them before and only "expose" our grandchildren to social nudity if thier parents agree.

I would like to hear what the rest of you think about this issue. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img]

**nudeM** · 10-22-2003, 01:31 AM

Hw and myself are raising our grandson and going nude around him is no big deal (only myself and not hw). At first he just laughed and stared at papa, but now he is comfortable. Our daughter is totally against it. I cover when she is around, but when she isn't, then I'm nude most of the time. In the mornings, I'll get a cup of coffee from the kitchen, and several times he will be up to watch the morning cartoons. I'll turn on the TV for him. He'll come in and ask for a glass of milk. Afterwards, he'll just sit and watch the cartoons. I'll even read the morning paper before getting ready for work, all the while, I'm nude. Our kids were not raised with nude parents, so this is something new. So far, everyone seems okay with it, except for the daughter.

**Abiqua** · 10-22-2003, 06:59 AM

Generally, of course, we should respect the parents' wishes, whether it involves our grandchildren or the neighbors' children (the flip side of that is that others should respect our wishes regarding our children!).

It's a slightly different matter if you're raising your grandchildren. No matter the legal status, you are making the parental decisions.

In a long-term situation, you also shouldn't be expected to give up your own reasonable habits, including walking about partly or completely undressed.

**Buzzer** · 10-22-2003, 09:36 AM

Even if it were an amusement park, the parents should consent before the children are taken any where.
Personally, I think the age of the children is the proper one for going to a nudist camp, or even visiting nude grandparents at home.
My own children saw their mother & I nude while the were playing (Naked, also.) at that age.

**Bob S.** · 10-22-2003, 07:06 PM

How are you children when they visit? Can you go naked around them? Do they require you to cover up? If you want to do anything, you need to be upfront with your children about your wishes. And respect their parental decisions.

Bob S.

**NudeAl** · 10-22-2003, 07:23 PM

I think it depends n your relationship with your children.

Do they have any positive memories of going to nuist camps beaches etc. ?

I have a grand child and our daughter has no problem with us taking her with us occasionally to our club. She went herself until she became a teen. If the child has a basic understanding of what nudity is all about and so does the other parent I don't think it will be an issue just mention you are going to your club or whatever and ask if your grand child can come along.

Goodluck

**Croydon** · 10-22-2003, 07:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by butnaked:
[qb] While our children were not raised in a nudist home they know my wife and I are nudist.

Now, they say that do not have a problem with our nudism. We wish to have our grandchildren (all less than five years old) experance nudism with us and go to our family nudist club. How should we go about this, I believe it is the parents rights to decide and we should explain our wishes to them before and only "expose" our grandchildren to social nudity if thier parents agree.

I would like to hear what the rest of you think about this issue. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] [/qb]

Whatever the parents say goes. If they ask that you keep your nudist life away from the children, out of respect for them, I think you should do so. Remember, you want to keep your relationship w/ your children on good terms and not do anything that would jeopardize it. Once you have jeopardize the relation, your kids may decide that your nudist ways isn't good for their children and may limit your interaction/visits with your grandkids.

I remember meetinng a gentleman who had 4 grand kids. He was a nudist and his grown daugther wasn't. The daughter didn't have a problem w/ him being a nudist but requested that he be dressed around the kids and not take them to nude beaches or clubs. The grandfather went against his daughther's wishes and now his grand kids no longer visit him overnight and when they do visit, the daughter or her husband makes sure that where ever the kids go w/ the grandfather, the daughter or husband are right there behind him.

**butnaked** · 10-23-2003, 11:13 AM

Thanks everyone, I agree with the gest of the responces. We intend to bring this up with our children soon and I will let ya'll know how it comes out.

Thanks again & Happy Trails [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_cool.gif[/img] Bob

**RIVERRAT** · 10-23-2003, 08:46 PM

I have a grandaughter, she is now 9, I have lived alone her entire life, she has seen me nude since she was about 2, she had to be every place I was no matter, we have been nude together until last year, all of a sudden she says don't look when she changes or whatever, she still has no problem with me being nude. Last week end we had a talk about it. She understands that I like to be nude and has know problem with it and she trusts me completely, we'll have to see where we go from there, If parents have a problem they have'nt mentioned it, Maybe a friend, we have to talk more about it. I would never impose on her my ways, if she is becoming shy about it I will let it go, at 9 it's a tough road.

hw · 10-23-2003, 09:32 PM

River Rat....sounds like your grand daughter may be starting puberty. Puberty is a difficult time for everyone. It is important to keep the lines of communication open to her. Let her know it is ok for her to be comfortable with or without clothes. She may go back to her nude ways once her body stops changing. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] In the meantime all you can do is love her for who she is. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

**Croydon** · 10-23-2003, 09:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by hw:
[qb] River Rat....sounds like your grand daughter may be starting puberty. Puberty is a difficult time for everyone. It is important to keep the lines of communication open to her. Let her know it is ok for her to be comfortable with or without clothes. She may go back to her nude ways once her body stops changing. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_smile.gif[/img] In the meantime all you can do is love her for who she is. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img] [/qb]

Shouldn't that be the job of the parents?

hw · 10-23-2003, 11:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Croydon:
[qb]Shouldn't that be the job of the parents? [/qb]

Yes Croydon it should be the job of the parents. However, it sounds as if River Rat has a very close bond with his grand daughter that he would like to maintain. My suggestion was for him to remain close with her.
BTW Some of us grandparents are raising our grandchildren. It is important for children to have as many adults as possible in their lives that will help them grow up, as long as the adults all share the same common values and goals. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_biggrin.gif[/img]

**RIVERRAT** · 10-27-2003, 01:08 PM

HW, I agree and as she grows I know she will respond in her own way, I accept that and I will not impose my ways on her, if she asks I will responed accordingly, thank you for yor insite. We have talked at a 9 year old base and all is cool, we'll just have to see how she responds the next time she is here and go from there.

**RIVERRAT** · 10-27-2003, 01:21 PM

croydon, If you read my earlier message you see that perants oppions come first if they have a problem with nudity or whatever, I respect that and that comes fisrt. Like HW said my granddaughter I have a very good relationship and it has been that way since she was very young, I don't want her to come down to my house for a week end and because of her parents or friends leave with a bad outlook, so I'm walking a tight line here, even my church and others in my community might chastise me for, my nudity and hers also is not a bad thing here, maybe in other places, but not here, I have talked to her about it in a way that a 9 year old would understand, all I can do is wait and see how she adjusts to it, if her parents have A problem here thats where it ends.

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