public nudity

[harrycrumb]

The idea that nudity is seen as a way to bring people together and "promote unity" is still a long way off. Nudity and differences in breasts, buttocks, penises, vaginas and the like is still clothed in shame and power displays by many who espouse themselves as open minded nudists. "Ideal and attractive" bodies are still more acceptable. We are not evolved yet to have lifestyles that are more open than our minds. just check out the video at this link-> Tittilating but more of the same beautiful breasts and well hung men. www.nothing-to-hide.co.uk

[Arnabas]

Interesting...

I agree that our preconceptions of what is beautiful is one of the harder prejudices to overcome. Any time you see "nudists" in any remotely mainstream way, they are invariably young, slim and attractive (by the average person's definition).

Still, that a company could take their tag line "Nothing to hide" and create an ad campaign of a couple-dozen men and women totally and casually nude is great.

Would be even better if such an ad campaign could make it to mainstream TV and print ads.

[nudenwv]

yes, i'll agree the models are quite attractive and young. remember, the company is selling a product. although i'd be more than welcomed to join the team i don't think someone would be tempted to by the product as quick as seeing young bodies. that's big business. looks like nice line of products too!

[MJ_KC]

Originally posted by Arnabas:
I agree that our preconceptions of what is beautiful is one of the harder prejudices to overcome.

We can be accepting of a wide variety of body shapes and appearances, but what is considered beautiful will continue to be a fairly small percentage of all people.

I have seen psychology experiments done where brain activity is monitored for young kids that are too young to speak very well or at all. There were definite differences in the facial expressions and brain activity when someone who society would consider beautiful was brought in front of these children. The test was based on the child only looking at the person.

When someone with average appearance or less was brought forward the test results indicated an obvious negative reaction. It seems that our sense of what is beautiful is already in our brains prior to being taught this by exposure to advertising.

Even the researchers seemed surprised by the consistency of the test results across a lot of test subjects.

[Stu2630]

Of course they would never get away with showing full frontal nudity on TV adverts, even if it were entirely non-sexual nudity.

Stu

[David77]

There is an entire field of study as to what is considered beautiful, called "Philosophy of Aesthetics".
One axiom is that a curved line is more aesthetic (beautiful) than a straight line. (Women have more curves, of course).

[DoctorSurferDude]

Oh....I guess I just assumed all european women had big breasts and all european men had trunks under their trunks. (kidding)

Well...I guess we have to consider that it IS a tv commercial, so if they are at all trying to sell beauty products, then representing something real, or real average, would probably not help them sell much. They are catering to the consumer.

For instance....if I developed a new exercise machine, then used myself as the body model...well, chances are I wouldn't sell very many

But...you'll be happy to know that the President of that company is actually in the commercial...not sure which one exactly, but she is probably one of the people who doesn't look like a hired model.

[nimrod]

I see an advertisement for beauty products, it really has nothing to do with nudism. They seem to be trying to sell a product to people who are insecure about their looks. Showing the "ideal" human body plays into peoples inscurities. The "if I use this product I could look like them" mentality rises and they buy the product. It was clever to use nudity with the product that wants to promote that they are using natural ingredients, and therefore have nothing to hide, but using the "ideal" body has been around for a long time, I see it all the time in advertising.

[threadbare]

Originally posted by DoctorSurferDude:


But...you'll be happy to know that the President of that company is actually in the commercial...not sure which one exactly, but she is probably one of the people who doesn't look like a hired model.

She is the brunette behind the laptop.

[Stu2630]

I guess we have to consider that it IS a tv commercial,

They haven't shown this on British TV and I very much doubt that they will - or on any other European network. This is an Internet ad, not a TV one.

Stu

[R.M.GREENMAN2]

Originally posted by Stu2630:

They haven't shown this on British TV and I very much doubt that they will - or on any other European network. This is an Internet ad, not a TV one.

Stu

The big difference being...I can click off an internet ad!

They rarely show fat people in a McDonald's ad...and they always show beautiful people in soap commercials, as well as shampoo, sun tan lotions.....it is nothing new!

[tomkojohn]

Did anyone else notice the pregnant woman in the ad? I thought that was a nice touch. I think they did a good job at having a multi-ethnic group of people, and tried to be inclusive. They did however populate the comercial with "beautiful" people, but that is what sells beauty products.

-- tomkojohn

[kphoger]

The idea that nudity is seen as a way to bring people together and "promote unity" is still a long way off. Nudity and differences in breasts, buttocks, penises, vaginas and the like is still clothed in shame and power displays by many who espouse themselves as open minded nudists.

forget breasts! what people are REALLY hung up on is the belly. ask a woman what she's unhappy with about her body, and she'll probably say her belly. the world needs to see that folds and stretch marks are normal. in west africa, stretch marks are considered a badge of honor; what do they know that we don't?

[Rabid_Clam]

In all actuality, the first thing I look at in a person is a most fleeting glimpse of body size and shape. That will tell me if it is he or she first and then age and then something about presentation.

To really examine the person I look into the face. Not to judge or get preception of beauty or handsomness, but to assess state of mind and demeanor. That will tell me if they are happy, fun, depressed, angry or any other emotional state as well as normal over all state of their being.

That is allot to gain in a fleeting glimpse but seems to work for me.

For instance, I looked at a blind woman. She was young and in decent shape for a mid aged person. But her face showed decided strain but acceptance of all that was about her as much as she was not a happy person. She was a kind person and otherwise in great mental state of mind, just a very sad person over all.

That made me sad. I don't think blindenss it self made her so unhappy as much *** all the limitations of society that is placed on her. Wish I could offer a better situation so I could see a beautiful smile I know she can create.

[TheNorm]

forget breasts! what people are REALLY hung up on is the belly. ask a woman what she's unhappy with about her body, and she'll probably say her belly. the world needs to see that folds and stretch marks are normal. in west africa, stretch marks are considered a badge of honor; what do they know that we don't?

Yep, but it applies to men as well. (Just look at all of the avatars with the sucked in bellys. )

What I find interesting is that many of the recent nudist photos display a far more relaxed abdomin than the posed shots from the 50's and 60's. After the belly, it's got to be the butt. "Does this towel make my butt look big?"