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    NATURIST ACTION COMMITTEE
    ACTION ALERT
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    http://www.naturistaction.org
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    Copyright 2012 by the Naturist Action Committee, which is responsible for its content.
    Permission is granted for the posting, forwarding or redistribution of this message,
    provided that it is reproduced in its entirety and without alteration.

    DATE : June 6, 2012
    SUBJECT: California – Saline Valley Warm Springs area of Death Valley National Park
    TO : Naturists and other concerned citizens

    Dear Naturist,

    The Naturist Action Committee is asking for your immediate action on an important matter concerning the Saline Valley Warm Springs area of Death Valley National Park.

    NAC asks that you provide comments to the National Park Service, requesting that consideration of clothing-optional recreation be included in the Management Plan and Environmental Impact Statement (EIS) for Saline Valley Warm Springs, as that plan moves toward completion. Details follow.

    BRIEF BACKGROUND

    Each National Park Service unit has a General Management Plan (GMP) that guides the actions of unit managers. Those plans are updated from time to time. Death Valley National Park has recently announced the initiation of the public scoping process for developing the Saline Valley Warm Springs Management Plan and environmental impact statement (EIS), which will eventually be included in an update to the 2002 General Management Plan for Death Valley National Park.

    For decades, clothing-optional recreation has been a popular choice among visitors to Saline Valley Warm Springs. Park Service managers have largely managed FOR clothing-optional use. Those who participate NOW have the opportunity to set the topics for future discussions. Today, you have a chance to be heard on issues that will guide the use of the warm springs for the next two decades.

    WHAT IS NAC ASKING YOU TO DO?

    The Naturist Action Committee is asking you to do just TWO things:

    1) There will be THREE public meetings on the issue of Saline Valley Warm Springs.
    If you live close enough to attend one or more of the meetings, NAC urges you to do so.

    Meetings will take place:

    Tuesday, June 12, in Bishop CA
    Wednesday, June 13, in Ridgecrest, CA
    Thursday, June 14, in Victorville, CA

    The Park Service has not published meeting information online. Complete meeting locations and times are available at: www.naturistaction.org/saline

    2) Whether or not you can attend a one of the public meetings, NAC requests
    that you immediately send your comments to the Park Service by online form,
    e-mail, or surface mail, supporting clothing-optional recreation as an important
    part of ANY plan for Saline Valley warm Springs. Send your comments to the
    National Park Service at the addresses listed below.

    DEADLINE FOR SUBMITTING COMMENTS IS AUGUST 6, 2012

    You MUST act quickly. The comment period for the Saline Valley Warm Springs scoping process ends on August 6, 2012 at 11:59 p.m. Comments at this early stage of the process are particularly valuable, as they will be given considerable weight in preparing the initial draft of the Management Plan and EIS.

    WHO SHOULD WRITE?

    NAC is asking ALL NATURISTS and other concerned individuals to write, regardless of your residence. National Parks and Seashores belong to ALL of us, and Saline Valley Warm Springs draws visitors from all around the world.

    WHERE TO SEND YOUR COMMENTS

    Please send your comments to the National Park Service immediately by at least one of the following methods.

    A) ONLINE COMMENT FORM (preferred):
    http://parkplanning.nps.gov/SalineValleyScoping

    B) E-MAIL: [email protected]
    Subject line: SALINE VALLEY GMP/EIS COMMENTS.

    C) POSTAL MAIL:
    Saline Valley Management Plan
    Superintendent
    Death Valley National Park
    P.O. Box 579
    Death Valley, CA. 92328

    Please do NOT send your comments by fax. Through recent discussions with the Superintendent’s office, NAC has become aware that fax service at the office Death Valley National Park is presently unreliable.

    You may send your comments by MORE THAN ONE means. Regardless of which you choose, NAC would appreciate the opportunity to read your comments. Please send a copy to:

    NAC
    P.O. Box 132
    Oshkosh, WI 54903

    or by e-mail to: [email protected]

    CONTEXT

    The purpose of the Saline Valley Warm Springs Management Plan/EIS is to:

    - Provide a framework for natural and cultural resources management at the Warm Springs area;
    - Provide a framework for administration and operations at the Warm Springs area;
    - Provide a framework for managing visitor use at the Warm Springs area;
    - Provide guidance for Death Valley National Park managers as they work with various stakeholders of the Warm Springs area; and
    - Balance management of natural resources, ethnographic resources, and visitor use.

    SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FOR WHICH THE PARK SERVICE IS PROMPTING ANSWERS

    If you have no opinion on a particular question, you may leave your response blank. Please be sure to mention clothing-optional use of Saline Valley Warm Springs in one or more of your responses. The Park Service is soliciting comments on the following specific topics of interest to naturists:

    1. What types of recreational use of Saline Valley Warm Springs are important to you?

    2. What visitor activities do you feel are appropriate in the Saline Valley Warm Springs area?

    3. [This question addresses the matter of feral burros. While it’s not a naturist issue,
    per se, you may have an opinion you wish to make known.]

    4. How do you feel about the camping situation at the springs?

    5. Do you have suggestions about how the National Park Service can best manage
    the anticipated increase in visitors to Warm Springs over the next 15-20 years?

    6. Do you have any concerns about the use of the Chicken Strip airstrip?

    WHAT SHOULD YOU SAY?

    Here are some suggested points you may wish to make:

    1. Identify yourself. Anonymous correspondence is often disregarded.
    If you are a past or prospective visitor to Saline Valley Warm Springs,
    please say so prominently.

    2. Be brief and polite.

    3. You should STATE VERY CLEARLY that you wish clothing-optional recreation
    to be included in the management plan for Saline Valley Warm Springs. It is
    important that any management plan retain and maintain the traditional
    clothing-optional use of the Warm Springs and the surrounding area.

    4. Point out that skinny-dipping and nude sunbathing are valid recreational choices.
    In 2006, the Naturist Education Foundation commissioned the independent Roper
    polling organization to survey Americans on the topic of clothing-optional recreation.
    Seventy-four percent of Americans believe that those who enjoy nude sunbathin
    should be able to do so at a place set aside for that purpose. Saline Valley Warm
    Springs is located in California. A 2009 NEF Poll of California residents showed an
    even greater level of support (79%) for clothing-optional recreation on public land.

    5. You may mention that in 2006 national survey, a clear majority (54%) of Americans
    believe that government agencies should set aside public land specifically for
    clothing-optional recreation. In the 2009 California Poll, that number was an
    impressive 70%.

    6. You may mention that traditional clothing-optional areas, like Saline Valley Warm
    Springs, contribute to the diversity of our National Parks.

    7. Use your own experiences to personalize your comments. This is not the place for
    complaints. Skinny-dippers and nude sunbathers simply wish to be included in the
    General Management Plan.

    8. Consider emphasizing that over the many decades of nude use of the Warm Springs,
    naturists have been instrumental in maintaining and protecting the Springs from
    vandalism and environmental degradation.

    MORE INFORMATION AND RESOURCES

    Additional information and links are available, along with this NAC Action Alert on the Web site of the Naturist Action Committee.

    http://www.naturistaction.org/saline

    There you will find links to the Park Service web site and the scoping process; links to the proposed plan and other documents will be posted there as they become available. You’ll also find links to the 2006 NEF Roper Poll and the 2009 NEF California Poll.

    PLEASE HELP NAC TO CONTINUE HELPING NATURISTS!

    The Naturist Action Committee is a volunteer nonprofit organization that exists to advance and protect the rights of naturists throughout North America. To do its job, NAC relies entirely on the voluntary generosity of supporters like you. To donate to NAC, use the address below.

    NAC
    PO Box 132
    Oshkosh, WI 54903

    Or call toll free (800) 886-7230 to donate by phone using your MasterCard, Visa or Discover Card. Or use your credit card to make a convenient online donation: http://www.naturistaction.org/donate/

    Thank you for choosing to make a difference.

    Naturally,

    Charles Harris
    Board Member
    Naturist Action Committee

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    Naturist Action Committee (NAC) - PO Box 132, Oshkosh, WI 54903
    Executive Dir. Bob Morton - [email protected]
    Board Member Charles Harris - [email protected]
    Online Rep. Dennis Kirkpatrick - [email protected]
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  • #2
    Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

    What people need to know about Saline Valley Hot Springs is that it really is out in the middle of nowhere. It is a very difficult place to get to and I doubt very much that anyone could ever ban nudity there. This place has traditionally been a live and let live kind of place and I don't see that chaning in the near future regardless of what any park services does.

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    • #3
      Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

      Originally posted by Sanslines View Post
      What people need to know about Saline Valley Hot Springs is that it really is out in the middle of nowhere. It is a very difficult place to get to and I doubt very much that anyone could ever ban nudity there. This place has traditionally been a live and let live kind of place and I don't see that chaning in the near future regardless of what any park services does.

      My wife and I have camped at Saline Valley and we love the place. Sans is right, it is in a very remote part of Death Valley National Park that is a drive of several hours on mostly dirt and washboard roads over an 8000 ft pass (if you're coming in the south entrance) and then down to and across the desert floor near sea level for hours. 4WD isn't required if the dirt roads are free of snow and moisture...but the washboard dirt roads are tough on regular suspensions.

      I disagree a little with Sans about how easy it would be to stop nudity at Saline Valley. The hot springs area almost always has one or more National Park Rangers around. They don't care about nudity right now and they're always very friendly to all the naked campers. But, I think all it would take to make Saline Valley Hot Springs into a clothing-compulsive disaster is one Ranger with a ticket book and instructions to use it to ticket for nudity.

      But I'm not worried. I saw what happened at San Onofre and I'm confident AANR and their superbly experienced and competent negotiators will save Saline Valley Hot Springs for clothing optional use. Right?......right?.....
      Last edited by Navigator; 06-06-2012, 06:37 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

        I submitted my recommendations on-line. I haven't yet been to Saline Valley, but have spent lots of time over the years in Death Valley. It has its own rugged beauty and color that must be seen to be appreciated.

        And thank you Dennis for keeping us informed. I greatly appreciate your efforts.

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        • #5
          Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

          Images of Saline Valley Hot Springs in Death Valley National Park: http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=...RM=HDRSC2#x0y0

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          • #6
            Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

            Originally posted by Sanslines View Post
            What people need to know about Saline Valley Hot Springs is that it really is out in the middle of nowhere. It is a very difficult place to get to and I doubt very much that anyone could ever ban nudity there. This place has traditionally been a live and let live kind of place and I don't see that chaning in the near future regardless of what any park services does.

            Remote yes, but often complacency of this nature has seen just the opposite happen.

            The objective of commenting during the scoping period is to assure that the naturist agenda is heard and placed within the framework of the discussion at all meetings from this point forward. If enough people write in then all future discussions of this and meetings will need to have us on the agenda.

            Assuming that remoteness is an automatic exemption from narrow-minded authoritarian rule is not wise counsel. Too many times we have seen the authorities go well out of their way to shut a site, when the frequent users were 1-2 lone skinny dippers and a bunch of crickets.

            Best.

            DMK

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            • #7
              Re: NAC Action Alert: Saline Valley Warm Springs

              Originally posted by DKirkpatrick View Post
              Remote yes, but often complacency of this nature has seen just the opposite happen.

              The objective of commenting during the scoping period is to assure that the naturist agenda is heard and placed within the framework of the discussion at all meetings from this point forward. If enough people write in then all future discussions of this and meetings will need to have us on the agenda.

              Assuming that remoteness is an automatic exemption from narrow-minded authoritarian rule is not wise counsel. Too many times we have seen the authorities go well out of their way to shut a site, when the frequent users were 1-2 lone skinny dippers and a bunch of crickets.

              Best.

              DMK
              Good response and explanation as to why it is important for naturists to speak out even for remote naturist sites. Common sense tells us that such remote sites are never a genuine problem but sometimes governement agencies in their zeal to close everything down will waste countless tax dollars in attempting to do so.

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