Smokers?

[dancin\'bare]

I have been visiting this site for a little while now and do not recall anyone mentioning `smoking'
(tobacco products).Even any information that I've requested from nudist clubs never seem to mention anything.I am a smoker and wonder if there are any others.With all the laws being passed prohobiting smoking I sometimes feel like an outcast.Am I an outcast in the nudist community as well?Also do some clubs prohibit smoking altogether?I would appreciate any insight on this.
Please try to refrain from telling me how bad it is (croydon){just kidding}for my health,it says it on every pack I get.And I'm not proud of the fact I started in the first place.

[dancin\'bare]

I have been visiting this site for a little while now and do not recall anyone mentioning `smoking'
(tobacco products).Even any information that I've requested from nudist clubs never seem to mention anything.I am a smoker and wonder if there are any others.With all the laws being passed prohobiting smoking I sometimes feel like an outcast.Am I an outcast in the nudist community as well?Also do some clubs prohibit smoking altogether?I would appreciate any insight on this.
Please try to refrain from telling me how bad it is (croydon){just kidding}for my health,it says it on every pack I get.And I'm not proud of the fact I started in the first place.

[Trailscout]

At my favorite resort, they smoke until the dining hall is blanketed with a gray haze.

I avoid that room and hang by the pool, but those areas are not smokefree either.

I long for the old days when nudist resorts were health resorts.

[wannabenaked2001]

I don't have a clue where I got this idea, but I think the camps/resorts that have an older clientle, have many smokers. The places that are mostly younger people have fewer.

Most places have areas designated for smoking, or not smoking. I am sorry to say that I am a smoker, and I am usually ashamed to admitt it.

If there are any young people out there who are thinking about smoking or smoke now in limited situations, QUIT NOW, or DON'T START! Belive me, the longer you do it, the harder it is to quit!!!!! $$$$$$ [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

[big bird]

I love sitting by the pool and having a cigar.

Helps me to relax.

I never smoke those smelly "Made in Hong Kong" ones, though.

Only the good stuff.

[Guest]

I didn't know there was any such thing as "good stuff" where tobacco is concerned, but then I've never smoked. It's a senseless habit that serves absolutely no useful purpose, but then that's just my opinion.

The resort to which I'm planning on moving has a lot of heavy smokers. The constant stench in the clubhouse is so bad that I can't stand to be in there. Whoever says that people are nudists for their health doesn't know what they're talking about. People who care about their bodies and their health don't smoke.

If people want to destroy their lungs, that's their business. If they have no respect for their own bodies, that's also their business. The only thing I put in my body that isn't good for it is too much fat.

[Bob S.]

First, don't even get me started on the topic of the government's "regulating" of smoking. They should either ban it, which they won't, or give smokers back some of their rights. That's all I'll say on it for right now except to say that I am not a smoker.

There are probably a good number of clubs that, because of state regulations, have to bar smoking from indoors. I would look at the individuual state and local laws to see how certain clubs have to deal with the issue. I know where I go, White Tail in SouthEast Virginia, they have a specific smokers' room, which is always empty in the good weather months. I haven't been there during very cold days, so I can't be sure how filled it gets. However, in the rest of the building, which is the rec center, it is no smoking.

Bob S.

[big bird]

Cigars aren't nerely as bad for you as cigarettes, Marc. No additives, no tar, ect.

Even then, I don't inhale.

At worst, I get throat cancer. My family has no history of such ailments, so it's a fairly small risk for the chemical boost my brain get's from the nicotine.

A few months ago, my younger cousin(around 12 at the time) asked for a cigar. I kindly obliged, handing him a Diablo. For those of you who don't know, a Diablo is probably the coarsest tobacco cigar available in the US. My father loves 'em. I keep them around when I want to intimidate people, or for comical purposes.

With this in mind, I light him up. He inhales once, nearly chokes up a lung, turns green, and throws up on my shoe.

Smoking is bad for you.

[Guest]

big bird,

To me cigars are even more foul smelling than cigrettes. If people want to smoke, that's their business as long as I don't have to smell it. If I had a dollar for every smoker who has told me I'm lucky that I don't smoke, I'd be rich. I can't remember how many have told me they wish they had never started smoking. No one has ever told me that they're glad they smoke, although a few--very few-- have said they actually enjoy it. I hear all the time, "I wish I could quit." An addiction is not easy to quit, although it's not impossible. I knew a man once who smoked for many years and quit cold turkey. He suffered with terrible withdrawals, but he was determined and eventually won. I had a brother who used peer pressure to get me to try a cigarette, but the horrid taste and putrid stench caused me to not want another one. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img]

[jbh]

There a much higher percentage of smokers around the pools and in the bar/snack bar at the local club than out in the "general public."

That said, the club also does a very good job of providing smoke-free areas for non-smokers without trampling on smokers' toes.

Here in Florida, in a little more than a month, smoking indoors in a non-private location will be a thing of the past except in stand-alone bars etc.

I'm a former smoker, not now a rabid anti-smoker, but I sure wish someone had _forced_ me to quit smoking all those years ago, or to not get started. If I'd known I was going to live this long etc....

[Naturist Mark]

One of the things I like best about our winter club swims is that there is no smoking at the facility we use.

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Originally posted by wannabenaked2001:
[qb] I don't have a clue where I got this idea, but I think the camps/resorts that have an older clientle, have many smokers.[/qb]

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My observation is the opposite. Smoking seems mostly restricted to the younger members. At least public smoking.

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Originally posted by big bird:
[qb] At worst, I get throat cancer. My family has no history of such ailments, so it's a fairly small risk for the chemical boost my brain get's from the nicotine.[/qb]

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Esophageal cancer is the very worst. It is essentially incurable. It spreads quickly to lungs, stomach and liver. It wraps around and closes your throat, gradually making it impossible to swallow solid food, and eventually liquids. It kills by starvation. The risk of esophageal cancer is primarily behavioral, not genetic. The major risk factors are smoking and alcohol.

If you want to boost your brain try Gingko Biloba.

-Mark

[Trailscout]

I have long prided myself on my abstinence from cigarettes, pipes and cigars, but I fell victim to smokeless tobacco, snuff and plug tobacco.

In my college days it was the thing to do. On weekends a couple of us would go down to the river with a can of snuff, usually wintergreen Skoal or a nice plug of Cannonball. A feller could spit out on the water and great lunkers of fish would come floating paralized up to the top of the water. Of course it took all the sport out of it, so we ceased and desisted and went back to the "worm on a hook" approach.

Folks down here traditionally enjoyed plug tobacco, but I reckon that fine milled snuff arrived from Yankee land early in the last century.

Cannonball was my favorite, but I began dating a girl who had delicate sensibilities and she took offense at my new habit. After I broke up with her, I resumed my affair with Cannonball, but it led to frequent sore throats and I figured I best quit while I was ahead. So by then I was lookin' to get my old girlfriend back, seeing as how I had quit chewing plug, but she was nowhere to be found.
True story (mostly)!

[Fresh Air]

What people do with their own bodies should be their own choice. In that sense, I am fine with smoking.

However, I am totally for the laws against smoking in public places. In those situations ones smoking habit can affect other individuals. While it is fine to do what you wish with yourself, it is not ok, in my oppinion, to do what you wish to others. People in general should have as much right to fresh air as smokers should have to smoke.

Fresh Air

[Angel]

Back in the days before the "No Smoking" craze, it wasn't uncommon to hear someone say to a neighboring table at a restaurant "Would you mind not smoking until we're done eating?" And the smoker would politely comply. Or the smoker would ask the surrounding tables if anyone objected before lighting up. Somewhere along the way, courtesy fell by the wayside. It seems that, once smoking was segregated, smokers started to feel they had a right to smoke in the smoking area as much as they wished, without regard for the nonsmokers who were at the adjoining tables.

So restaurants started enclosing smoking areas, keeping them separate from the nonsmokers, with different and better ventilation systems. Seemed like a much better way of handling it. But it still left smokers acting without thinking of courtesy, first. I personally do not like to eat when someone near me is smoking. Nor do I like being in smoke-filled rooms. Nor do I like being in an area littered with cigarette butts (and no, smokers aren't the only litterbugs, don't get me started on that subject!).

That being said, I like to think I am a courteous smoker. I rarely smoke in the presence of nonsmokers, and make certain any trash is properly disposed of. I have no qualms about going to nonsmoking restaurants or other facilities - as long as I can get away every couple of hours or so to indulge my addiction.

Perhaps a greater focus on returing to the habit of courteous behaviour would take care of a great deal of the problems related to the smoker/nonsmoker battle?

My 2 cents, YMMV!

[Trailscout]

The founders of nudism would roll over in their graves if they were to learn that resort nudists outdo the rest of the world for obesity, lack of exercise, smoking, and alcohol consumption.

The only thing they have in common with old time nudists is nudity. Well, except when they have a lingerie show or just don't bother to be nude, or their kids are still ashamed of their bodies and hide in a darkened television room, while mom and dad are chain-smoking and chugging beer from their lounge chairs by the pool.

Hmmm, I guess they share the values of paying for recreation behind a 12 foot high wall. At least some things don't change!