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    Just looking over new set of vintage photos all in black and white and noticed that nobody shaved in those days. Wonder when shaving and the new smoothie look became popular?

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    Just looking over new set of vintage photos all in black and white and noticed that nobody shaved in those days. Wonder when shaving and the new smoothie look became popular?

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    • #3
      Who said it was fashionable?

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      • #4
        maybe not fashionable but more common.

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        • #5
          I mean which "fashion guru" is leading the smoothie charge ... Channel, Claiborne, Gucci, Versace, etc.?
          After all it can't be popular or fashionable unless one them tells us it is, right!?

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          • #6
            Primarily dealing with men, this is a story posted on the web from the Wall Street Journal in May 2004:

            That Thicket of Hair Just Spoils the View of All Those Muscles

            It all started back ancient Greece, home of the original Adonis. When carving their marble statues of men, Greek sculptors, who were careful to chisel in beards and moustaches, almost always gave their subjects smooth chests. Chest hair, says Andrew Stewart, an art history professor at the University of California, Berkeley, “was excluded from the Greek ideal of beauty.”

            That’s more or less the view of Jason Vourazeris, who is something of a modern Adonis. The 20-year-old premed major at the University of Southern California is trim and hit by virtue of regular sessions at the USC weight room. The Sunday before last, he was heading out to the beach with some chums. To get ready for a shirtless afternoon, he went into a bathroom of his fraternity house, pulled out a can of shaving cream and a plastic razor, lathered up his chest, and shaved it. “It just looks a lot cleaner this way,” he explained.

            It turns out a lot of other men are going smooth. They no longer aspire to the dense pectoral embellishment of an Ernest Hemingway, Burt Reynolds or Tom Selleck. The new ideal is the Marky Mark-style buff body-bulging pecks and tight ads, both as smooth as a baby’s bottom. Body hair, after all, just obstructs the view of all those muscles. So growing numbers of men, especially younger ones who work out, are using razors, electric clippers, waxing, electrolysis and lasers to get rid of it.

            These new smoothies are everywhere. The “Body for Life” fitness program asks people to spend six weeks getting into shape and then send in before-and-after pictures. The men in the “after” shots invariably have shaved chests.

            FHM, a men’s magazine, ran a six-page spread last year on removing body hair. Men’s fitness magazine hasn’t had a hairy chest on its cover since 1995. If a model showed up for a cover shoot with hair on his chest, “we’d ask him to get rid of it,” said Dave Zinczenko, the magazine’s editor. TV commercials and magazine ads routinely show only polished chests. “In many situations, we’ll be asked if a guy will wax or shave,” says Amy Sobo, of the Sobo Casting agency in Los Angeles.

            On youth-and-sun-oriented television shows, such as those shown on MTV, watch as the camera pans a beach crowd. The men are invariably muscular and smooth. Or saunter down fraternity row in parts of the country with warmer and sun-conscious climes-like 28th Street in Los Angeles, a few blocks from USC, home of Mr. Vourazeris’s Pi Kappa Alpha frat house. You’ll likely see an army of buff and largely smooth frat boys sitting out enjoying the sun.

            “It’s a huge trend,” says a spokeswoman for Gillette-so much so that the company is thinking of adding a section on chest-shaving to its Web site. “The chest is a delicate area, full of lots of bumps and nuances,” she says.

            Of course, body builders have always shaved their chests-and the rest of their bodies-to better show off their sofa-sized muscles. In his “Encyclopedia of Bodybuilding,” Arnold Schwarzenegger dispenses shaving tips, cautioning lifters not to follow the practice his workout partner Franco Columbo used between bench presses: pulling hest hairs one by one by hand.

            Other male athletes use razors in untraditional places. Swimmers shave their whole bodies the night before a meet, to better feel the water. Stanford University swimming coach Skip Kenney estimates that shavers get a 2% speed boost. Cyclists shave their legs, largely because a shaved leg heals better in the event of a spill, says Matt Murphy, managing director of the U.S. Cycling Federation.

            But much of the current chest-shaving isn’t functional. “It’s an effort to follow the aesthetics of Greek statuary,” says Steven Cohan of the English Department at Syracuse University, who has written about male images in the movies.

            Dr. Cohan says many Hollywood actors have been secret chest shavers. Burt Lancaster, for example, went smooth for “From Here To Eternity.” But it’s not always something celebrities want to talk about. For example, many Web sites devoted to Star Trek report that William Shatner shaved his chest for his role as Capt. Kirk.

            Did he really? “It’s a ridiculous question, and I won’t ask him,” says a spokeswoman for the star. “Even if he did, he probably wouldn’t want to talk about it.”

            Not everyone is so taciturn. On a 1997 episode of “Seinfeld,” Jerry shaved his chest, worried what his girlfriend would think, but discovered that she likes things smooth. Spike Feresten, the “Seinfeld” writer who wrote the episode, says he did so to help get the issue of male body-shaving into the open. “You can tell there is an apprehension about it, but it is definitely going on,” he says.

            To be sure, not all men are chest shavers, particularly older guys. Many don’t even approve of the idea. “I consider it creepy,” says Jim Kaminsky, editor of Maxim, the men’s magazine. “In most cases, guys should never shave below the neck. It’s one of the vestiges of womanhood. We’re invading an area we shouldn’t invade.”

            The recent interest in chest shaving for cosmetic reasons seems to have started in the gay male community, whence have come other male grooming trends. For example, at the circuit parties that are popular with heavily muscled gay men, shaved chests are ubiquitous, says Bill Haberkam, who runs a Web site devoted to the circuit-party scene. “It’s a total stereotype, but it’s true,” he says.

            Indeed, the “gay question” is one that straight chest-shavers say they have to grapple with. “A lot of guys want to do it but are insecure and think it’s gay,” says Kirill Zagalsky, a chest-shaving fraternity brother of Mr. Vourazeris. “But I’m secure.”

            The men of Pi Kappa Alpha-avowed heterosexuals all-say that their smooth skin is extremely popular with women, especially younger ones. The men also try to dispel some urban legends about chest shaving. No, it doesn’t itch horribly when it grows back. And no, it doesn’t grow back even denser.

            Who knows how many men are shaving their chests. Nobody is counting. But here’s one data point: One Sunday, Mr. Vourazeris’s bedroom at Pi Kappa Alpha was a gathering place for frat brothers, there to watch the Syracuse-Georgia Tech football game on TV. In the course of an hour, about a half a dozen young men wondered in.

            Most of them said they practiced some sort of upper-torso depilation.

            Garriet Thompson, for example, said he did it regularly when playing football in high school. “The ladies liked it,” he said with a rakish smile. Another brother, Travis Skelton, said that while he doesn’t shave his chest, he does trim it with scissors.

            “Scissors?” said Mr. Vourazeris. “That’s disgusting. No wonder it’s all patchy. Use clippers, dude.”

            -Wall Street Journal, May 2004

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            • #7
              Journeyman - Very good article - too bad it didnt get into the real smoothie issue that is shaving balls, penis and remainder of pubic hair.

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              • #8
                My impression is that the genital-shaving "fashion" has only been strong for a few years now, probably no earlier than the late 90's. There have always been some shavers, but now it has become the norm. I don't shave anything but my face, and I guess like the Maxim guy quoted in the article above, I find it a little creepy that guys shave their body/genitals for a non artistic/athletic purpose... but I am glad people feel free to do what they please. I like my girlfriend to be natural too. Maybe I'm part hippy or neanderthal, but I'm happy the way I am made naturally and just delighted with how women are naturally made.

                I have noticed that the teens/20's generation is very shave-happy (both guys and girls). I fear that women will come to see guys with normal body/pubic hair as abnormal and disgusting, as many American guys see women who do not shave legs & armpits. Of course when I say "many American guys" I do not include myself in that. I don't think any man could call himself heterosexual and not be attracted to women as nature has created them.

                I guess I was kind blabbing on there... but I'd say the genital shaving thing has really took off in the last 5-6 years. Ultra-low-cut female (and sometimes male) pants fashions now encourage the trend even more.

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                • #9
                  I'd say your right. I've been shaving for years but in the last 10 or so it does seem the norm to shave and not shaving is less common. For myself shaving makes me feel even more nude somehow. It also seems more hygenic imo

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                  • #10
                    You look at tv shows today and a guy has his shirt off and he is shaving down,and taken one step more and off comes all the hair. I tend to think that how we all get into shaving all tan up and all the guys have too look like that.Be side it how you feel about your self also, its your body and your in it.Tv is great about going hairless ad's all the things to be smooth.Well you all have a great day, and have fun go in the best suit God birth suit.

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                    • #11
                      i started shaving a couple of years ago by choice. my wife started then i followed. i noticed how nice it looked and decided to try it myself. have been smooth ever since. i notice more male and females smooth now than a couple of years ago.

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                      • #12
                        quote:
                        Originally posted by Big-Thinker:
                        My impression is that the genital-shaving "fashion" has only been strong for a few years now, probably no earlier than the late 90's. There have always been some shavers, but now it has become the norm. I don't shave anything but my face, and I guess like the Maxim guy quoted in the article above, I find it a little creepy that guys shave their body/genitals for a non artistic/athletic purpose... but I am glad people feel free to do what they please. I like my girlfriend to be natural too. Maybe I'm part hippy or neanderthal, but I'm happy the way I am made naturally and just delighted with how women are naturally made.

                        I have noticed that the teens/20's generation is very shave-happy (both guys and girls). I fear that women will come to see guys with normal body/pubic hair as abnormal and disgusting, as many American guys see women who do not shave legs & armpits. Of course when I say "many American guys" I do not include myself in that. I don't think any man could call himself heterosexual and not be attracted to women as nature has created them.

                        I guess I was kind blabbing on there... but I'd say the genital shaving thing has really took off in the last 5-6 years. Ultra-low-cut female (and sometimes male) pants fashions now encourage the trend even more.

                        Genital shaving isn't that strong.

                        The article posted by Journeyman spoke about chest shaving. Chest shaving is quite popular among young men. Many of my male friends shave their chest. I too shave my chest.

                        I shave my chest because I workout a lot. I am in shape and I like my results to be seen. Shaving my chest allows me or anyone to see abs muscles or the countour of my chest.

                        The shaving of the rest of the body has not reached popularity. I do notice, time to time, that men are beginning to shave other parts of their bodies. I know most young people TRIM their pubic hair, not many fully shave it. I do not shave my pubic hair. I have noticed young people shaving their legs and arms. But again, this is not a popular practice.

                        I do forsee that shaving the rest of the body will become popular among young men. In months where I workout hard (winter), I will occasionally shave my legs and arms.

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                        • #13
                          I thought that I was the only male who shaved their public hair until I found this site. I think that it may have started when bathing suits began becoming smaller, for men and women. A smaller bathing suit covers less so hair would stick out of it, so the shaving started, at first just what might show, than more and more, until all the hair was gone. I do not know if the porn industry helped the trend or not, but shaving became popular awhile ago, and hairy videos are considered a fetish now.

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                          • #14
                            It probably became fashionable when the cosmetic industry were looking for new opportunities to con the public into using their products!

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                            • #15
                              [QUOTE]Originally posted by nimrod:
                              I think that it may have started when bathing suits began becoming smaller, for men and women.

                              Nimrod - Have you noticed the bathing suits the young lads are wearing that go below their knees! I dont think much hair would be visible so they think they have to shave their balls!

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