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    I was reading a couple of posts in different forums relating to the same topic: the "image" of nudism. So I figured I'd say a few things about my personal experience.

    When nudism was created in Germany over a century ago, social nudity was but one component of a broader philosophy. The other components were vigourous exercising, dieting, and abstinence from drugs and alcohol. This formula survived at least through the 60's; then at some point, the philosophy was almost entirely reduced to social nudity. It is interesting that the "hard part" was conveniently tossed out. But has that benefited or hurt the nudist movement?

    I have a few nudist books and periodicals from the 60's, and the "image" I have of nudism back then, which was often represented, is along the lines of the one I posted below: active, fit, healthy, dynamic. This "image", by the way, can still be found in Europe, especially Eastern. But what is it here and now?
    I once ran into a college classmate at the local nudist resort in VA. After the initial shock, we started talking about the "nudist experience." And he started sharing his disappointment. It was his first time, and he was expecting games, activities, people our age. Instead, aside from my wife and I, all he had seen were "fat people idling by the pool", and proceeded to write-off nudism as a "lazy" activity. Since then, I have heard that comment over and over again. Most recently, after her infamous trip to Caliente, Paris Hilton corroborated that image by describing her nudist experience as "gross, old fat people." Of course, Caliente and nudists were outraged by that comment. But my thought were: "is that really what young people today are perceiving nudism to be about? If it is, we're probably in more trouble than we think."
    I guess the question that should be asked is: "Does nudism need to stand for more than social nudity?" Of course, being a 155 lbd non-smoking, non-drinking fitness aficionado, it is easy for me to say "YES! We need to take it back to what it USED to be about." But the reality is that obesity, along with drinking and smoking, are real issues in american culture, and that has had a definite impact on the textile perception of nudists; and like it or not, it is not a very positive one.

    I can't really offer any solutions here. For me, nudism very much = health and fitness, but I can't convert anyone to my way of thinking, and get everyone to join a gym and be more physicaly active at their resort. But I do think that such a change would benefit nudism in a monumental way; because nudism would come to be perceived as a health-oriented activity. And we'd all live longer, which is not bad either.

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    I was reading a couple of posts in different forums relating to the same topic: the "image" of nudism. So I figured I'd say a few things about my personal experience.

    When nudism was created in Germany over a century ago, social nudity was but one component of a broader philosophy. The other components were vigourous exercising, dieting, and abstinence from drugs and alcohol. This formula survived at least through the 60's; then at some point, the philosophy was almost entirely reduced to social nudity. It is interesting that the "hard part" was conveniently tossed out. But has that benefited or hurt the nudist movement?

    I have a few nudist books and periodicals from the 60's, and the "image" I have of nudism back then, which was often represented, is along the lines of the one I posted below: active, fit, healthy, dynamic. This "image", by the way, can still be found in Europe, especially Eastern. But what is it here and now?
    I once ran into a college classmate at the local nudist resort in VA. After the initial shock, we started talking about the "nudist experience." And he started sharing his disappointment. It was his first time, and he was expecting games, activities, people our age. Instead, aside from my wife and I, all he had seen were "fat people idling by the pool", and proceeded to write-off nudism as a "lazy" activity. Since then, I have heard that comment over and over again. Most recently, after her infamous trip to Caliente, Paris Hilton corroborated that image by describing her nudist experience as "gross, old fat people." Of course, Caliente and nudists were outraged by that comment. But my thought were: "is that really what young people today are perceiving nudism to be about? If it is, we're probably in more trouble than we think."
    I guess the question that should be asked is: "Does nudism need to stand for more than social nudity?" Of course, being a 155 lbd non-smoking, non-drinking fitness aficionado, it is easy for me to say "YES! We need to take it back to what it USED to be about." But the reality is that obesity, along with drinking and smoking, are real issues in american culture, and that has had a definite impact on the textile perception of nudists; and like it or not, it is not a very positive one.

    I can't really offer any solutions here. For me, nudism very much = health and fitness, but I can't convert anyone to my way of thinking, and get everyone to join a gym and be more physicaly active at their resort. But I do think that such a change would benefit nudism in a monumental way; because nudism would come to be perceived as a health-oriented activity. And we'd all live longer, which is not bad either.

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    • #3
      Excellent post. Thank you.

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      • #4
        I agree excellent post and thanks for sharing your thoughts on this subject. I also find that nudism supports a healthy lifestyle as mentioned and I personally try to follow the early aspects of the German model such as diet, exercise, etc.

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        • #5
          That ignores the fact that this approach would exclude a lot of people with health problems that prevent them from engaging in strenuous excercise, even if they want to.

          Why take something that already has a limited number of participants and then seek to drastically reduce the number? If the only people who can participate are the healthy and fit people, there wouldn't be very many people left.

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          • #6
            quote:
            Originally posted by MJ_KC:
            That ignores the fact that this approach would exclude a lot of people with health problems that prevent them from engaging in strenuous excercise, even if they want to.

            Those with health problems which prohibits them from engaging in strenuous exercising should be encouraged to be as sedentary as medically necessary, but still enjoy the nude day and the socializing.
            Those who were able to exercise strenously, will probably want a rest afterwards.

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            • #7
              I accept everyone absolutely as they are. If they are happy, I couldn't be happier for them. For me, nudism has and does contribute greatly to my health and fitness, I believe, and I wouldn't want it any other way. But, I see that as being just for me.

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              • #8
                Nudism should be accepting of everyone. Within the nudism 'family' there will be subgroups that have 'special' interest such as fitness or playing tennis or petanque. Everyone should be welcome to join these groups and share their interests if they are interested and able to do so.

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                • #9
                  I go along the lines of nudism should be accepting of everyone. As I choose to exercise and watch what I eat, I feel I am doing what is right for me. If others choose to do little exercise and not watch what they eat, then it is their choice.

                  Until those medical problems besetting others happen to me, I will continue the life I have chosen for myself. Maybe the choices made now will help me avoid those medical problems later.

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                  • #10
                    Thanks Nudony for the excellent post.

                    (I tried to edit my post, but got the "Message Topic" error message when submitted.)

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                    • #11
                      I am always amazed at the fitness "issue" here in the US. I just shake my head when I see someone pull up to LA Fitness and park in a handicapped spot (with no sticker no less) or the fire lane just to avoid the extra 20 yard walk from a legitimate parking spot to go inside and work out. Everyone seems to want to lose weight but the only focus they place on it is on their diet and not getting up off the sofa to at least go walking if they can't run or bike or something more strenuous.

                      I realize that many people have medical conditions that prevent them from performing strenuous exercise but how many of them have led non-active lives up to that point in their lives and to what degree has it contributed to their condition which prevents them from exercising?

                      It is interesting to see the overall fitness of the general population in varying cities where there is a difference in how people get around. It is pretty obvious when you see people in a city where a fair amount of walking is the norm like New York or Boston and then contrast it to an area where people would drive to get next door if you let them.

                      I hate preaching to people about this to try to get them to exercise more; same with smoking or other personal choices that affect their health....maybe it would be better to promote the nudism/naturism = health and fitness the other way around and show those people who are already interested in health and fitness that there are alternatives out there like nude running, nude lap swimming, nude yoga and so forth.

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                      • #12
                        Nudony, yes, nudism should return to its roots and re-emphasize health and fitness. I was re-reading that book documenting nudism in 1931 Europe (Among the Nudist) and it was really inspiring.

                        We may encounter too much opposition from the rank and file, so we may have to found some brand new Frei Korper Kultur clubs to get the ball rolling.

                        Maybe some traditional clubs could do more to accomodate the fitness movement. If they want to be a part of it, that's great.

                        No one is forcing the sedentary off their cots, but many of us can and should do more.

                        Nudism = Be all that you can be!

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                        • #13
                          YES ! YES ! YES !

                          Nudony, Atlanta and Trailscout have it nailed !

                          I would return in a second to the fifties, forties...better yet, the thirties for a taste of the nudism I first encountered in books and photos from that time.

                          Nudony, Atlanta and Trailscout have nailed it !

                          I seriously, really believe that nudism should be for everyone who wants it. That said, I wish there was a separate culture within that would enfold those of us who like to run and lift weights and do calisthenics. And yoga, oh yes, yoga !

                          If I could amass the fortune we all dream of, I'd build a resort that would have at it's center a gym, surrounded by a running track paved in barefoot quality sand. There would be army style parallel bars and the house rules would deny tobacco, coffee, alcohol, fat foods........

                          And I'd call it a "nudist colony".

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                          • #14
                            quote:
                            Originally posted by healthnudt:
                            If I could amass the fortune we all dream of, I'd build a resort that would have at it's center a gym, surrounded by a running track paved in barefoot quality sand. There would be army style parallel bars and the house rules would deny tobacco, coffee, alcohol, fat foods........

                            And I'd call it a "nudist colony".


                            If you could build it somewhere between Denver and Salt Lake City, I'm there!!!

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                            • #15
                              Could it be that we are watching a movement begin ?

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