Trump and nudism?

[garbo]

During the election process, the media portrayed president-elect Donald Trump with questionable respect for women. If true, this would include walking into private dressing rooms while model contestants while dressing, verbally abusing some women on the Apprentice, denying the reports regarding women who came out with reports of sexual abuse, his obnoxious interview with David Letterman, where he admitted disrespecting women, and... not to forget the Access Hollywood tape. Perhaps there are more issues as well?

If pressed for his opinion, do you think he would be in favor of or against the very concept of social nudism? Also, if so, might he be an advocate for nudism?

[Guest]

Not that I know that much about the new POTUS Elect, but would speculate no. Reason is simple, there is no benefit for him, either political or financial. Just so happens his Miami Trump resort is just a few buildings away from Haulover Beach. A perfect lead in to advertising to the C/O crowd but there is nothing about it. On a final note, the fact that no politician in SF spoke out a few years ago about changing the laws about public nudity in the most liberal city in the nation further promotes the opinion that there has to be some form of political or financial gain in it...which is hard to imagine.

[Bob S.]

What national politicians would be or have stated their public position of nudism? I doubt Trump even cares about it much less has given it any thought. Bob S.

[jasenj]

OTOH, Trump has traveled extensively. His wife is from Slovenia. I'm going to speculate that Slovenia is far more open to naturism than the USA - being part of Europe, next to Croatia (a place where naturism is very popular), and a quick Google search finds several FKK sites there. If the stories of him entering changing rooms are true, then he clearly has no aversion to being around unclothed people - even if his motives were prurient. Melania, and his previous female companions, have been models, a profession where nudity is common. His previous wife Ivana is from Czechoslovakia, another European country where FKK is common.

We don't have any pictures of Trump without a shirt on, or at a naturist beach, or anything like that - unlike, say Putin, who likes to run around with his shirt off. So it is hard to speculate about his personal body image. He may just keep a very careful public profile.

My suspicion is that he will have a far more casual attitude toward nudity than many other candidates.

[Evernude]

If there was money to be made building a nudist resort hotel, Trump would be interested.

[FireProf]

During the election process, the media portrayed president-elect Donald Trump with questionable respect for women. If true, this would include walking into private dressing rooms while model contestants while dressing, verbally abusing some women on the Apprentice, denying the reports regarding women who came out with reports of sexual abuse, his obnoxious interview with David Letterman, where he admitted disrespecting women, and... not to forget the Access Hollywood tape. Perhaps there are more issues as well?

If pressed for his opinion, do you think he would be in favor of or against the very concept of social nudism? Also, if so, might he be an advocate for nudism?

Wait ... "the media portrayed Trump with questionable respect for women?" The media portrayed??? Those were his words, his actions ... not the media's. "IF TRUE?" Let's stick to facts here!

... and I'll ask you this. Is the media also to blame for what Bill Cosby is going through?

[usuallylurk]

Checking in .... I'll tell you - I did not vote for Trump, but with that aside...


Nudity / anti-nudity laws are USUALLY enforced at the state level. So I don't expect to see many changes there, beyond the usual.

Now, what prompts anti-nudity maneuvers at the federal level? That is, national parks, national seashore, national forests, and properties under the wildlife & fisheries area? Usually environmental groups. Who put pressure (and make substantial lobbying contributions) to get their way, and get nude beach activity closed down.

We might (and I say *might*) see an easement of a sort, or reduced pressure to stop nudity on federal public lands. Now, IMHO there are far more critical political issues than nudity, and I would think most nudists who think when they vote - don't vote for a candidate with the idea that he/she supports nudity - there are many more important issues ahead of free beaches.

[FireProf]

Now, IMHO there are far more critical political issues than nudity, and I would think most nudists who think when they vote - don't vote for a candidate with the idea that he/she supports nudity - there are many more important issues ahead of free beaches.

I agree completely! (Thumps Up)

[nudeyooper]

Too many more important issues to be discussed on the national front. Nudity laws are local, and if there is to be change it must begin at the local level. Even national lands can be hostile to nude activity because local laws can be enforced on them.

[gunnisonfan]

While NJ is nudist hostile in state parks. Gunnison beach is on federal land in NJ and is a relatively large and very popular clothing optional beach.

[usuallylurk]

I agree - most - but not all - access to nude recreation on public lands is determined at the state or local level -- including gatherings, etc.

Those that are determined at the federal level are driven by major environmentalist groups - who are much bigger, much more powerful than we are.

I actually view that the door may open a crack for us to get back into places that have been shut off to us. So we shall see!