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Has anyone heard any more information about the couple that were members at Bonita Resort in Upstate NY but are no longer welcome there? The story is that the owner telephoned the couple and asked them not to return because the woman was "fat". The couple is planning to sue in federal court over discrimination against 'women of size'. In a related matter, since there is so much alleged discrimination against single males at some clubs, has anyone ever heard about a single or singles getting together to sue a club for gender discrimination?
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Has anyone heard any more information about the couple that were members at Bonita Resort in Upstate NY but are no longer welcome there? The story is that the owner telephoned the couple and asked them not to return because the woman was "fat". The couple is planning to sue in federal court over discrimination against 'women of size'. In a related matter, since there is so much alleged discrimination against single males at some clubs, has anyone ever heard about a single or singles getting together to sue a club for gender discrimination? -
People are always saying in these forums that nudist venues have the right to set any rules they want since it's their business. However, if they turn anyone away for ANY reason other than inappropriate behavior then they have discriminated, and that is wrong.
Nudist resorts, clubs or whatever SHOULD be sued any time they turn someone away simply because they're single, too fat, deformed, or any one of a number of other excuses that could be used. If they got sued often because of their discriminations, they would change their policies.
Let's say I owned a business and was hiring. Let me say that this is only an example and NOT something I would do. Anyway, I turn one woman down because she's "too fat". I turn a man down because he's black , hispanic, or some other minority. I turn another man down because he's a Jew, a Catholic, or any one of a number of other religions, or I turn someone down because he's an atheist. I turn another man down because he's in a wheelchair. I turn a woman down because she's "ugly".
How long do you think I would be in business? I would be paying out so much for lawyers because of being sued that I couldn't afford to stay in business. Either that or I would have to change my attitude.
Lawsuits would cause many resort owners to change their attitudes and policies or go out of business, and I'm all for it.
Naturism is SUPPOSED to be about acceptance. However, they CHOOSE who they will and will not accept. Is that TRUE acceptance?Comment
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This is all very true but why have no single men filed lawsuits to challenge the status quo??? I have talked with many single men who claim discrimination but when asked what they have done to fight the status quo they suddenly become very quiet. They always seem to be looking for someone else to do the 'dirty work'. Laws are changed and written everyday. If enough single men put the pressure on and make enough noise then change will occur. Those groups that are effective in forcing change always band together and do something other then complain.Comment
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Question, why should we accept someone who we don't agree with there diet. Do you honestly believe that someone who's size makes it unpleasant to look at should be allowed in even though other members will be disgusted by it.
You know that there is always more to a story than meets the eyes, i mean there must have been large numbers of complaints for them to be banned, Just how fat is this women, cause i once saw this really really fat woman, and i honestly felt like a needed to throw up, it was disgusting at how this woman had let her body become so overweight, now should those who are disgusted by it need to sit around an witness such a sight.
Do the nudist place not retain the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason, after all its not public property its privatly owned.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by Sanslines:
....since there is so much alleged discrimination against single males at some clubs, has anyone ever heard about a single or singles getting together to sue a club for gender discrimination?
OR....how bout resorts get together and sue single males for being single?? (kidding)
I think there are so many more productive ways to solve the problem. Nobody really wins in the game of SUE except the lawyers I guess. It's sort of like throwing a grenade to clean up your room.
The "fat lady" isn't exactly going to win friends at Bonita, plus we don't know the whole story (she may have cost the resort more than the cost of her gate fees by stretching some lawn chairs beyond repair).
The unified nudist single male populus could pool their money and energy to create a nudist resort where they make the rules....in the long run that would be more of a solution.
And....come to think of it....the last time I was at Disney World there were some kids rides that I was not allowed to go on because I was "too tall" .....think I have a case?Comment
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Personally, I don't believe in discrimination of any type. As long as someone is fairly hygienic and doesn't bother anyone else I don't see any reason for a ban. Private property is another matter...I believe they're perfectly within their rights to dictate who they want on their property.Comment
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The fat woman should come here in Quebec, it is not far from where she lives and I saw plenty of very fat people in naturists centers in Quebec.
However, some naturists centers in Quebec are discriminatory against singles, so she should chosed one that welcomes everyone.Comment
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Wait just one second Eric....are you trying to steal Fat Americans?
You'll never win!! .....USA holds the corner on THAT particular market
(I jest)Comment
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I can't see how any of this would be good for nudism. Maybe someone should sue someone else for wearing clothes. I know, lets take it to the supreme court and screw everyone.
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quote:Originally posted by Jennifer1:
Question, why should we accept someone who we don't agree with there diet. Do you honestly believe that someone who's size makes it unpleasant to look at should be allowed in even though other members will be disgusted by it.
You know that there is always more to a story than meets the eyes, i mean there must have been large numbers of complaints for them to be banned, Just how fat is this women, cause i once saw this really really fat woman, and i honestly felt like a needed to throw up, it was disgusting at how this woman had let her body become so overweight, now should those who are disgusted by it need to sit around an witness such a sight.
Do the nudist place not retain the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason, after all its not public property its privatly owned.
Your ignorance of fat people amazes me and even more amazing is that everyone is ignoring what you said.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by Sanslines:
This is all very true but why have no single men filed lawsuits to challenge the status quo???
You only have to read this board to realize that the last thing many men would want is to be publicly identified as nudists. If they sued, the press would jump on a story like that like flies over honey.
Simply put: they don't want the publicity.Comment
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quote:Cyndiann - To respond to her posts is to validate her thoughts as worthy of response...
Not addressing it is validating it as far as I am concerned. It would be like being at a nude beach and not doing anything about a couple of people having sex in front of you. In both situations I will speak up for what is right.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by Cyndiannaked:
quote:Originally posted by Jennifer1:
Question, why should we accept someone who we don't agree with there diet. Do you honestly believe that someone who's size makes it unpleasant to look at should be allowed in even though other members will be disgusted by it.
You know that there is always more to a story than meets the eyes, i mean there must have been large numbers of complaints for them to be banned, Just how fat is this women, cause i once saw this really really fat woman, and i honestly felt like a needed to throw up, it was disgusting at how this woman had let her body become so overweight, now should those who are disgusted by it need to sit around an witness such a sight.
Do the nudist place not retain the right to refuse admission to anyone for any reason, after all its not public property its privatly owned.
Your ignorance of fat people amazes me and even more amazing is that everyone is ignoring what you said.
I'm sorry, Cyndiann. I was offended by her ignorant and thoughtless remark and wanted to say something. However, I didn't know what to say to something so hurtful and uncaring as that. For once I was at a loss for words.
We have some VERY large people here who are also some of the friendliest people here. I have no problem looking at them and talking to them.
If a person is truly a nudist then they will accept ALL people regardless of how they look. Isn't that a part of what nudism is SUPPOSED about? If we judge people on how they look, then we are no different from the textiles who judge you by what you wear as well as how you look.Comment
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Jennifer is at an age when a 90-pound girl can eat a triple cheeseburger, a shake and a biggie fries and still lose weight.
I encourage people to be a healthy weight, but I recognize how easily those extra pounds creep up on you. The diet that worked last year might not be what you need this year.
I have plenty of obese friends. I wish they were slim, but I love them right now as is.Comment
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