A warning from the FCN

[cirram]

A US fugitive on the US marshal's Most Wanted is possibly in Canada and interested in Nudist Resorts.

http://www.fcn.ca/mcnair_warning.pdf

[cirram]

A US fugitive on the US marshal's Most Wanted is possibly in Canada and interested in Nudist Resorts.

http://www.fcn.ca/mcnair_warning.pdf

[NakedGary]

Thanks "cirram" for your notice and link.

[NudeDen]

Not too make light of this but the way that report reads it kind of sounds like one of the stories from the comic Loxie & Zoot(for those who havent read it loxieandzoot.com). It's just kind of a funny coincidence. Though another humorus thing on that report is that if he is at a nudist resort, though he maybe dangerous you can definately tell if he's armed, being nude and all, lol.

Seriously though, it's good that the marshals informed FCN and inturn, thanks for posting the info here.

[NakedGary]

Cary Stayner was caught at Laguna Del Sol nudist resort. Noticed by a gal from the TV news. They pulled the power on the gates and blocked him in until the sherrif arrested him. He Killed three gals....



Murderer of Three Women apprehended and arrested at Laguna Del Sol Nudist Resort

[Sacramento Jesse]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by NakedGary:
Cary Stiener was caught at Laguna Del Sol nudist resort. Noticed by a gal from the TV news. They pulled the power on the gates and blocked him in until the sherrif arrested him. He Killed three gals....QUOTE]

I heard about this guy. Didn't America's Most Wanted do a story on this guy? Damn. I thought LDS did back ground checks?

[Sacramento Jesse]

Whoa this was the guy who killed Carole Sund,her daughter and their friend? Dude thats scary. I heard some guy was arrested @ LDS a few years back but didn't know it was this guy.

[NakedGary]

Sacramento Jesse

They do now as most resorts do, Its called the megans law in California.

A complete listing for other States at this FBI link:

State Sex Offender Registry Web Sites



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[Naturist Mark]

quote:

Cary Stayner was caught at Laguna Del Sol nudist resort. Noticed by a gal from the TV news. They pulled the power on the gates and blocked him in until the sherrif arrested him. He Killed three gals....

And then they refused to pay the reward offered for information leading to his capture.

The dirty secret is that rewards are almost NEVER paid.

-Mark

[usuallylurk]

quote:

Originally posted by Sacramento Jesse:
I heard about this guy. Didn't America's Most Wanted do a story on this guy? Damn. I thought LDS did back ground checks?

To be fair about this - yes, Cary Stayner was arrested at Laguna del Sol. Peacefully and quietly.

Reports were that he had been to LDS on several occasions. If you've ever been to any nudist facility - two things are true --

- if you want to socialize with others and mingle, the opportunities are there.

- if you want to be left alone, and be by yourself, and not have your space crowded, those opportunities are also there.

Reports are that he fit into the latter category. And that's not unusual, a nudist park is a good place to chill out by yourself, if that's what you want. And a lot of people do just that.

But -- background checks?

Stayner had no prior criminal record, as far as anyone knew. In fact, when Stayner was taken into custody, he wasn't even a suspect but just a witness! And during his LDS visits, he supposedly just kept to himself and caused no one any grief.

So don't blame LDS -- even if a background check was run, it probably would have shown NOTHING. There was a suicide attempt some years earlier and a marijuana bust in 1997 - those wouldn't prevent one's entry.

He was questioned as a routine suspect a murder of an uncle but he had an alibi that was pretty solid, supposedly, so that wouldn't have turned up in a background check.

[usuallylurk]

quote:

Originally posted by Naturist Mark:

And then they refused to pay the reward offered for information leading to his capture.

The dirty secret is that rewards are almost NEVER paid.

-Mark

According to published reports, the information leading to his arrest for murder was provided by Stayner himself ... via a confession ... and he wanted to collect the "reward" and give the money to his parents.

So you're right -- the reward was never paid, but no government agency rewards a guy who confesses to the crime.

[Ken Palmer]

Goodness! I hope they apprehend this guy soon before he victimizes someone else!

Ken Palmer

quote:

Originally posted by Jason Lee:
Richard McNair (alias Jimmy Jones, Robert Jones)

Was serving 3 life sentences for murder and burglary. He escaped from the U.S. Penitentiary Pollock Louisiana. McNair maintains a high level of fitness and is trained in martial arts. He normally wears glasses and a goatee-type beard. Also uses a birth date 19 December 1958.

Reward up to $25,000 for infomation directly leading to McNair's arrest.

[Sacramento Jesse]

quote:

Originally posted by usuallylurk:

quote:

Originally posted by Sacramento Jesse:
I heard about this guy. Didn't America's Most Wanted do a story on this guy? Damn. I thought LDS did back ground checks?

To be fair about this - yes, Cary Stayner was arrested at Laguna del Sol. Peacefully and quietly.

Reports were that he had been to LDS on several occasions. If you've ever been to any nudist facility - two things are true --

- if you want to socialize with others and mingle, the opportunities are there.

- if you want to be left alone, and be by yourself, and not have your space crowded, those opportunities are also there.

Reports are that he fit into the latter category. And that's not unusual, a nudist park is a good place to chill out by yourself, if that's what you want. And a lot of people do just that.

But -- background checks?

Stayner had no prior criminal record, as far as anyone knew. In fact, when Stayner was taken into custody, he wasn't even a suspect but just a witness! And during his LDS visits, he supposedly just kept to himself and caused no one any grief.

So don't blame LDS -- even if a background check was run, it probably would have shown NOTHING. There was a suicide attempt some years earlier and a marijuana bust in 1997 - those wouldn't prevent one's entry.

He was questioned as a routine suspect a murder of an uncle but he had an alibi that was pretty solid, supposedly, so that wouldn't have turned up in a background check.

Makes sense. Thanks Lurk.

[usuallylurk]

quote:

Originally posted by Jason Lee:
what is a prison life sentence in the USA ?

25 years

50 years

100 years

It depends. As you know, there are 50 states, and each state (and the District of Columbia) have different laws, and there are also some instances where the federal (U.S.) government has jurisdiction.

Typically, "Life" is 33 years, which means that a person is eligible for parole after serving around 20 years.

On the other hand, laws now permit, and sometimes mandate sentences of "Life without the possibility of parole". People can also be sentenced to terms that can be served consecutively, or terms of 99 years, 120 years, etc.

If you go to, for instance, the Florida Department of Corrections website, you can find inmates that have been behind bars for 40 years or more. There is one man on Florida's death row who has been "awaiting execution" for over 27 years!

Most atates have a mechanism where a sentence can be commuted or reduced after the fact.

[xgsft]

quote:

Originally posted by usuallylurk:

quote:

Originally posted by Jason Lee:
what is a prison life sentence in the USA ?

25 years

50 years

100 years

It depends. As you know, there are 50 states, and each state (and the District of Columbia) have different laws, and there are also some instances where the federal (U.S.) government has jurisdiction.

Typically, "Life" is 33 years, which means that a person is eligible for parole after serving around 20 years.

On the other hand, laws now permit, and sometimes mandate sentences of "Life without the possibility of parole". People can also be sentenced to terms that can be served consecutively, or terms of 99 years, 120 years, etc.

If you go to, for instance, the Florida Department of Corrections website, you can find inmates that have been behind bars for 40 years or more. There is one man on Florida's death row who has been "awaiting execution" for over 27 years!

Most atates have a mechanism where a sentence can be commuted or reduced after the fact.

It is rather frustrating knowing that they can be released when thier victim's life can never me resumed.