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**earthpassenger(Kevin)** · 08-12-2006, 08:10 PM

The L. A. Times ran an article , "Notes on Nude Beach Season" by Elizabeth Rosner today.
I thought it was a change of pace to see nudism discussed in the paper alongside such topics as terrorist plots, the wars in the Middle East, and the economics of the housing market.
The article can be seen at:

latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-rosner12aug12,0,2416849.story?/coll=la-opinion-rightrail

Peace, Kevin

**nifocinphx** · 08-12-2006, 10:41 PM

Hey Kevin, thanks for post! I thought it was a great article by Elizabeth Rosner..... of course I'm biased concerning nude beaches

Methinks Ms. Rosner just may be a naturist after reading "Notes on Nude-Beach Season"

**NakedGary** · 08-12-2006, 10:59 PM

What's strange L.A. County doesn't have a legal nude beach for a hundred + miles or for millions of its residents.

**rone** · 08-13-2006, 06:17 AM

Nice, pleasantly reading story.

**Tampanude** · 08-13-2006, 03:45 PM

Excellent article, Has anyone thought of shooting Ms. Rosner a link to AANR, or here?

I think it may be a great opportunity for a representative (Hi, Corey!) response to an op-ed piece

Thoughts?

**earthpassenger(Kevin)** · 08-13-2006, 06:34 PM

I just got some more background on Elizabeth Rosner. First of all, she grew up in Schenectady, New York and she currently lives in Berkeley, so I guess it's just a coincidence that her article was published in the L. A. Times.
Having lived in Los Angeles for the first thiry two years of my life I would definitely second Naked Gary's opinion on nude beaches in L. A.: none that I know of although I believe some people have done it in the past on Venice Beach BUT it's not legal there and I only noticed one person trying it there once about fifteen years ago. It's a shame if you just take a look in the San FRancisco BAy Guardian at all the nude beaches listed in the Bay area. Maybe that's where Ms. Rosner visited the nude beach.
Her real background is not as an authority on nudism. She is the daughter of holocaust survivors and her most recent novel, according to Publisher's Weekly, is about reconciliation between a descendant of Germans and a descendant of holocaust survivors. The story is about a German art teacher in San FRancisco and an Israeli model in a life drawing class.
I ordered a copy from amazon after I read her article yesterday. I was curious to see how important the nudist theme might be in the book.
Ms. Rosner's first novel,"Speed of Light," is expected to be made into a movie directed by the actress Gillian Anderson.
So it's not clear how much she is involved in naturism beyond her L.A. Times article yesterday.
Peace,
Kevin

**nifocinphx** · 08-13-2006, 07:47 PM

Kevin, like you, I did some checking on Elizabeth Rosner's background after reading in the article that she's the author of the recently published novel Blue Nude. Looks like a fascinating book by a fascinating and talented author.

Link to Blue Nude Synopses & Reviews
Link to Elizabeth Rosner biography

Since Ms. Rosner lives in the Bay Area, I'm sure that's where she visited the nude beach. Based on her observations & comments in the article it's obvious that it wasn't her first, or last, visit. I don't know if she calls herself a nudist or not, but I'll bet there aren't any tan lines on her self described "slightly vintage birthday suit."

Link to "Notes on Nude-Beach Season" article
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**earthpassenger(Kevin)** · 08-14-2006, 08:46 PM

When she starts off by wondering if she is the only one who finds it "harder to get naked than to be naked" I can't help but remember the first time I visited a nude beach.
After having lived all of my life in Los Angeles where, as we all know, there are NO legal nude beaches, I visited San Francisco's Baker Beach eleven years ago out of curiosity and totally preconditioned by my L. A. experience to be skeptical of the possibility that there could be a nude beach anywhere near a modern city and to distrust the travel books' reports of a nude beach right within SAn Francisco.
I walked fully clothed into the nude northern section of Baker Beach on a hot day in the middle of July 1985 (it was about 85 degrees) and was basically dumbfounded to see hundreds of people almost all nude. As for the thought of joining all of them, my first feeling was probably similar to what someone feels if he arrives half an hour late at the starting line of a marathon: the idea was more than a little overwhelming when so many other people clearly had a huge head start. So I turned around and started to hike up the hill to consider the scene from a distance and think.
On the way I noticed a couple of women running down the stairway made of logs that leads to and from the northern parking lot. They started to remove all their
clothes as soon as they got to the bottom of the stairs. They took their clothes off just about as frantically as many of us have often had to put them on before work in the morning. (And that's about the way I have done it just about everytime I visited the nude beach since then--maybe a little less frantically, however. Like those women, and unlike Ms. Rosner, I haven't given too much thought about the need for "just a little grace about how my clothes get removed".)
Maybe it was the fact that I noticed they were foreigners (from the distance I couldn't tell what language they were speaking: French? Swedish?, Serbo-Croatian?, Portuguese?) and just as likely tourists as I was, but I chose to identify with them in this respect: they were for all I knew strangers to the beach and strangers to every one else there as much as I was at that point and so, whatever we felt about it afterward, we would still be free to remain strangers from there on.
Well, at least that's what I would say to someone who is still squeamish about trying public nudity.
Peace,
Kevin

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