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    David,

    This is the wrong place for a theological discussion, or I would answer that!

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  • David77
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    Jon71 said:----"His soul was in Heaven (or elsewhere) in the blink of an eye following death".


    What? I thought that the theory is that the Resurrection Day, when everyone is raised from the dead, must come first, before the decision as to who goes where.

    Actually, I understand that different writers of the Bible claim different scenarios.

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  • richinud
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    It's amazing how ignorant people can be to one another. Clearly this family did not respect this man or his last wish.

    One thing is certain, any God worth his/her salt, would not be the slightest bit interested in those pathetic rags people insist on dressing themselves up in.

    Very very sad.

    Rich.

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  • MikeJB
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    Yah too bad whoever prepares his body for the funeral doesnt know of his desire to be buried nude otherwise they could just remove his clothes before the funeral and or before hes buried and then he could be nude and nobody'd have to know. I think after what his family did to him they dont deserve to know or have any say anyways.

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  • Ren
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    The story goes into further detail, and this is decidedly disturbing about how the family would account for his naturism:

    "Relatives spoke of emotional problems following his service in World War II. The prosecutors, during his frequent arrests, claimed otherwise. They said he was just being stubborn."

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  • Ren
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    One word will solve the whole thing: cremation

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  • David77
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    Don't caskets usually have a two-piece lid?

    True.

    My uncle was buried with no pants on, but had on long johns plus shirt, tie and suit coat.

    My uncle was always a snappy dresser, and gave me his clothes sometimes, when I was a young man, as we were the same size. The mortician knew this, so asked me if I wanted my uncles nice pants (trousers), as no one would know he had no pants on in the casket, as the lower lid of the casket would cover that portion of his body.

    To make a long story short, I enjoyed wearing my favorite uncle's pants for many years.

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  • pek1
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    I think that prude woman neighbor should have spent more time cooking, cleaning and baking cookies than minding everyone's business except her own.

    As for being buried nude, the family should have honored it, but, since there is a minister involved (I'm a former lay minister for 18 years), that itself is self-explanitory.

    Being buried nude, he should have been. If my family doesn't honor it, then I want a casket that only opens in the middle to show my butt to them...and make sure it's bare, too! Shiny side up!

    Actually, my body is being donated to medical science...after all, it's the Christian thing to do.


    Pete

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    Don't caskets usually have a two-piece lid? The bottom part can be left closed and just open the top part. People can tell he's not wearing anything, but they won't see "offensive" parts--unless it's a woman since breasts seem to offend so many people. They can always lay some material over "offensive" parts temporarily until the casket is closed permanently.

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  • David77
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    Originally posted by EuropeMan:
    I didn't see that he had asked to be placed nude in the grave without a coffin. A coffin isn't clothes...

    Or is it so that the funerals would be held BEFORE the coffin is closed? This never happens here... and at least having the funerals with the coffin closed would be a compromise.


    I have never hear of anyone being placed in a grave here in the USA without a coffin of some sort.

    Also, it is against the law to bury someone without a concrete vault in the ground. This vault keeps the ground over the grave from eventually sinking down so far that it becomes very noticeable and unsightly in the cemetary.

    Most always in the USA the funeral service is conducted with the casket lid closed.

    However, I did go to one unusual funeral service (in Arkansas, USA) some years ago where the leader, as he was giving the funeral service, asked that everyone line up and take one last view of the body before closing the casket lid.

    What we are mainly referring to here in this thread, by the term "funeral", is actually the funeral wake, which takes place the day or two before the funeral service when the relatives and friends go to the funeral parlor (funeral home, mortuary) and view the body with the casket open from the waist up.

    The wake is a time of consolation and sympathy to the loved ones of the deceased, but also becomes a major time to socialize with relatives and friends whom you may not have seen for a length of time.

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  • Nudeinbama
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    That is a good point about the Will not being read until after the funeral, will keep that in mind. And yes, many of you do make good points on that the funeral is for the living. To ease the pain of your passing. But...on the other hand, one has too little control of so many things, while here on this earth, maybe as I said in my post, or was impying, being buried nude, could be done privately, in between the open casket funeral and getting you in the ground. In this part of the country, the casket's always closed at the short graveside service. Who would have to know, except the one you have arrange it and you. And yes I do beleive I will know, one way or the other, if my wishes are carried out. Just some thoughts on the topic.

    Nudeinbama, now and forever more,even after death, possibly

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  • EuropeMan
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    I didn't see that he had asked to be placed nude in the grave without a coffin. A coffin isn't clothes...

    Or is it so that the funerals would be held BEFORE the coffin is closed? This never happens here... and at least having the funerals with the coffin closed would be a compromise.

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  • jon71
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    I'm kind of torn on this one, I can see both sides. On one hand I am a strong believer in individual choice and that adults should be able to decide things on their own. On the other hand funerals are for the survivors, not the deceased. His soul was in Heaven (or elsewhere) in the blink of an eye following death. In bluntest terms possible what was left then was worm food. We don't like to think of it that way but it's true. I wonder if a compromise would have been possible. Maybe he could have been nude and they held a closed casket service, or possibly a mention of naturism in his epitaph.

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  • MikeJB
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    If all theyre thinking about at your funeral is if youre clothed or not then they really need to get their priorities set straight. You shouldnt need a will or anything to ensure that you get to be buried nude, the simple fact that it is your wish to be buried nude and people know this is all you should need because people simply need to respect that wish and do it without question because thats the respectful thing to do. If family members are uncomfortable with the nudity then they simply need to avoid attending the funeral, simple as that.

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  • KirkOntario
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    Originally posted by Nudeinbama:
    This story has inspire me to think about getting it into my will that I be buried nude, whenever that may be. I'm sure the family will fuss, but they'll honor my wishes, even if it means a clothed funeral, for the family.
    nudeinbama

    Wills are seldom read until after the funeral. You need to tell them ahead of time. But remember funerals are for the living not the dead. You remembrance is supposed to comfort them at a time of upset so you might think of how they would feel about it.

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