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  • #16
    Originally posted by EltonJ View Post
    Actually, yes, I still believe that Religion could hold back someone from the truth. ...
    There are about 4000 recognized religions in the world, and most of them are mutually exclusive. If one of those religions is actually right, the other 3999 religions are holding back their followers from the truth. It is much more likely that none of the 4000 religions are right, so all of them are holding back their followers from the truth.



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    • #17
      Originally posted by Mosquito_Bait View Post

      There are about 4000 recognized religions in the world, and most of them are mutually exclusive. If one of those religions is actually right, the other 3999 religions are holding back their followers from the truth. It is much more likely that none of the 4000 religions are right, so all of them are holding back their followers from the truth.


      I think all of the religions are holding people back. In the book Human Reality, the author states that not one of the religions teach the whole truth about our reality. Not even one.

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      • #18

        "Actually, yes, I still believe that Religion could hold back someone from the truth."

        Elton, what truth are you talking about? If the Eternal Truth, then they are not holding back that Truth from their adherents, they are simply teaching that which they believe in. To suggest religions hold back the truth from anyone implies there is are universal, empirical Eternal Truths and that some religions are simply not teaching them or preventing their adherents from learning about them.

        As I stated above, the debate about what are the Eternal Truths is what causes the friction between the different religions. Since none of them are provable or falsifiable, you can't say anyone is holding back the truth, only teaching what they believe to be the truth.

        Bob S.

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        • #19
          Don't confuse religions with Christianity

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          • #20
            Please add to that statement, Tanazz, it could be taken many different ways.

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            • #21
              It makes you think, doesn't it?

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              • #22
                It does make me think. There are way too many divisions within Christianity to lump them together as one religion. It seems to be the case with Jews and Muslims too, but I have no first hand knowledge there.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bob S. View Post
                  "Actually, yes, I still believe that Religion could hold back someone from the truth."

                  Elton, what truth are you talking about? If the Eternal Truth, then they are not holding back that Truth from their adherents, they are simply teaching that which they believe in. To suggest religions hold back the truth from anyone implies there is are universal, empirical Eternal Truths and that some religions are simply not teaching them or preventing their adherents from learning about them.

                  As I stated above, the debate about what are the Eternal Truths is what causes the friction between the different religions. Since none of them are provable or falsifiable, you can't say anyone is holding back the truth, only teaching what they believe to be the truth.

                  Bob S.
                  Actually, I can't teach. I don't have that ability yet. I would love to discuss this further, however I haven't been given the power to teach.

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                  • #24
                    I'm just a simple man who believes in the risen, living God of the Bible and its teachings. That's Christianity, as I know it. Anything else is a deviation that I don't believe. You or anyone else can believe what you want, that's America, so far.

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                    • #25

                      "It makes you think, doesn't it?"

                      Are you saying Christianity isn't a religion? That Christianity isn't the only religion? That there is Christianity that is the truth and then all the other religions that aren't valid? That is why I asked you to clarify, Tanazz.

                      "Actually, I can't teach. I don't have that ability yet"

                      Speaking is teaching, Elton. And you did teach. You talked about what the author of the book of Human reality stated. You are teaching us that which you learned on the topic of religion.

                      Bob S.



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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Bob S. View Post
                        "It makes you think, doesn't it?"

                        Are you saying Christianity isn't a religion? That Christianity isn't the only religion? That there is Christianity that is the truth and then all the other religions that aren't valid? That is why I asked you to clarify, Tanazz.

                        "Actually, I can't teach. I don't have that ability yet"

                        Speaking is teaching, Elton. And you did teach. You talked about what the author of the book of Human reality stated. You are teaching us that which you learned on the topic of religion.

                        Bob S.


                        Correct, Bob, it is the truth.

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                        • #27
                          True religion gave us nudity and freedom sadly we have added many layers to what was originally given
                          Last edited by Prim; 07-12-2022, 03:15 PM.

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                          • #28
                            Not saying this is my opinion at all but I saw this and it made me think (and think of this thread)

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                            • #29
                              Well not quite. I think they were told not to eat of the fruit. What to do. Remain subservient or partake in enlightenment and become as the gods

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