Announcement

**nude dad** · 05-17-2003, 10:36 AM

I'm planning on visiting a nudist resort for the day. How do i convince my 16yo son and my wife to join me. My son is probably more open to the idea but still not sure he wants to get naked in public.

**Kenny G** · 05-17-2003, 11:30 AM

The way I see it, You're looking at the answer right now! The best way to show someone the nudist lifestyle from the outside is through the internet, the INA's website is one of, if not THE most informative nudist/naturist website available. I've offered the web address to several people along the way, offer to sit down with your family and slowly go through the various topics and FAQ's sections and have an open discussion with them about your interest and hear thier opinions as well. Trust me, the nudist lifestyle will sell itself, all you have to do is provide the information. Show them the discussions that take place here on this forum, and encourage thier participation in the forum as well, that way they can interact with other nudist while staying anonomous behind the keyboard until they are more comfortable with a public outing. We'll be here to welcome them to our world, and You as well, welcome aboard. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img]

**nude dad** · 05-17-2003, 12:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny G:
[qb] The way I see it, You're looking at the answer right now! The best way to show someone the nudist lifestyle from the outside is through the internet, the INA's website is one of, if not THE most informative nudist/naturist website available. I've offered the web address to several people along the way, offer to sit down with your family and slowly go through the various topics and FAQ's sections and have an open discussion with them about your interest and hear thier opinions as well. Trust me, the nudist lifestyle will sell itself, all you have to do is provide the information. Show them the discussions that take place here on this forum, and encourage thier participation in the forum as well, that way they can interact with other nudist while staying anonomous behind the keyboard until they are more comfortable with a public outing. We'll be here to welcome them to our world, and You as well, welcome aboard. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_wink.gif[/img] [/qb]

thanks for a fine answer. I'll let them share in this board with me and get to meet some of you fine people.

**Rik** · 05-17-2003, 02:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny G:
[qb]... Show them the discussions that take place here on this forum, and encourage thier participation in the forum as well, ... [/qb]

Yes indeed, show them the discussions on "Man and his penis" or "Nipple Erections". Let them learn the ancient craft of shaving their genitals as described in gruesome detail in "How to shave pubic for men" or perhaps let them drawl over them the sexual fantasies of a 12 year old in "Embarrassing Nude Stories".

And if all that doesn't them convince them that nudism is a wholesome family activity then how about getting them to join in the discussion on whether people having sex in public should be a punishable offence?

There's just so much to learn about naturism!

Rik

**shãybare** · 05-17-2003, 03:12 PM

Poor Rik. He got scolded and is lashing out. Maybe he needs to converse with more 12 year olds. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img]

**Guest** · 05-17-2003, 03:38 PM

I have to agree with Rik on this one. Too much of what's written here has nothing whatsoever to do with naturism. Will reading these posts convince any non-naturists that we're normal and that naturism is a clean, non-sexual activity? [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_confused.gif[/img]

**Trailscout** · 05-17-2003, 04:20 PM

Corky has already said that he is reluctant to put further restrictions on posting, but maybe we need to do just that, delete the threads and posts that do not reflect favorably on the nudist ethic.

**Doug H** · 05-17-2003, 08:04 PM

I'll agree that there has been stuff posted that I didn't really want to read. But, much of it has been both the offensive post and the posts by those offended. Some topics I avoid because of the title. Some topics I've begun avoiding because of the direction the discussion turned. Maybe the moderators could give a clearer definition of "too much information", but most of what some have chosen to take offense to is a matter of personal taste and can be, if one chooses, simply ignored. Lowers one's own blood pressure and doesn't raise anyone elses.

Doug H.

**Kenny G** · 05-18-2003, 09:05 AM

Doug's right, even if we don't agree with an idea or opinion, all people on this board have the right to express themselves. Certain language, and sexual topics aren't needed here, there's plenty of other forums around for that type of discussion. But I do believe that a first timer even, if they were to read through the posts, would see that the larger majority of nudist's here lead the open, relaxed and wholesome lifestyle that we describe (or, should I say, we strive to live that lifestyle). Unfortunatly, there will always be the "bad apples" but the administrators do thier job well, in my opinion. They monitor the posts, and keep things in line without acting like "big brother", realizing that every opinion has it's merits, even if they're not in line with the majority. Occasionally, we will see post from perv's, sexual degenerates, hate mongers, and others that we don't appreciate, but remember that these people represent a small cross section of the population, and yes,....you may meet them at your favorite nude beach someday. This forum offers insight into the minds of posters, sometimes it ain't pretty. [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_eek.gif[/img] (sorry, I hate to end on a depressing note)

**Rik** · 05-18-2003, 01:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kenny G:
[qb] Doug's right, even if we don't agree with an idea or opinion, all people on this board have the right to express themselves. [/qb]

Apparently not. See topic "TV Debate on Nudity".

quote:
[qb]But I do believe that a first timer even, if they were to read through the posts, would see that the larger majority of nudist's here lead the open, relaxed and wholesome lifestyle that we describe [/qb]

I think the first timer's perspective will be skewed by the sheer volume of non-naturist related posts most of which focus on genital shaving or sexual activity. Surely such topics serve only to confirm the sexually orientated view of naturism held by so many non-naturists.

quote:
[qb]...the administrators do thier job well, in my opinion. They monitor the posts, and keep things in line without acting like "big brother", realizing that every opinion has it's merits, even if they're not in line with the majority.[/qb]

Regretably however they do nothing to stem the ever increasing flow of completely off topic discussions.

Rik

**shãybare** · 05-18-2003, 03:37 PM

We do not need more censorship. Believe it or not we need less. I, personally, think Rik and friends should be able to discuss what they want on here. Others do not have to read what they post if it does not interest them.

I diagree with the way Rik lashed out. I believe his beef is with the Admins; not the newbies on the forum. Other than that, I believe Rik has made some good points about alot of senseless posts. But this forum is not just about nudism as much as some want to think it is. It is about human beings being human beings. They just happen to be nudists, naturists or whatever they want to call themselves. We all discuss things in which we are interested. Some of us like to tell jokes. Are you going to ban jokes if they are not about nudists? Too many people are jumping on the censor wagon. So, Let me ask you this? Who is censoring you? Some say the Admins. are doing a great job. I certainly am not going to argue with that. I think they will have to do lthe censoring and not us.

**Bob S.** · 05-18-2003, 06:59 PM

In answering the original question, I would suggest that you email the park where you are planning to go and explain to them your dilemma. You could even give them your email addy (maybe even address or phone number) and tell them to give it to any parents (members) there, espeially ones with children (especially boys) your son's age. You may be able to chat with or even meet a family who can be a kind of a welcome wagon and help them through any fears or questions that they have.

Good luck.

Bob S.

**Donbon** · 05-18-2003, 07:31 PM

Finally, be very careful. You don't want to harm a good marriage and/or a good relationship you have with your son over a trip to a nudist resort. Have you discussed being nude at home as a family? Feeling comfortable being nude as a family, before you visit a park for the first time, can be very beneficial. The Naturist Society, Naturally Magazine and American Association For Nude Recreation offer excellent videos showing nudists at parks here in the U.S. and around the world. I strongly suggest you purchase one and share it with your family. Good luck and be very considerate of the feelings of your wife and son.

**Rik** · 05-19-2003, 01:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by shaybare:
[qb] But this forum is not just about nudism as much as some want to think it is. It is about human beings being human beings. They just happen to be nudists, naturists or whatever they want to call themselves. We all discuss things in which we are interested.

[/qb]Shaybare,

Thanks for the kind words but the point I was trying to make is not about censorship or free speech but simply about keeping topics within the bounds naturism (except of course those that are clearly labeled as 'off-topic'). I agree that we're just being human and want to discuss human issues but imagine discussing the mechanics of genital shaving on, say, the Beanie Doll Collectors Forum. You'd soon get booted off and your argument that "this discussion board is not just about Beanie Dolls" would have its members falling about in laughter.

However anyone with half a brain wanting to understand about Beanie Doll collecting would quickly understand that genital shaving is way off topic but when it comes to naturism there are still many people out there who believe that naturism is just an excuse for a sex orgy and to read all the posts on this board about this and other sexually orientated subjets under the banner of "Fun of Nude Recreation" would only serve to confirm their fears (or hopes perhaps!).

In my view (which may clearly be a minority view) the only on-topic issues regarding gentital shaving is whether or not it is acceptable in a nudist setting. Quick answer is "yes"!

Oddly, perhaps, I have no issue with the endless erection (penis, not nipple) discussions because the fear of erection is the number one fear of newbie males. This fear stems from a deeply held cultural belief that the naked body, by definition, is sexually arousing but as naturists we know that this is not the case and at naturist venues around the world we demonstrate the fallacy of this notion on a daily basis. But the continual genital-centric and sexually orientated discussions on this board will do nothing to help males overcome their fear of unwanted erections.

I "lashed out", as you put it, against a suggestion that reading these discussion boards would encourage the wife and 16 year old son of poconosteve to visit a nudist resort. Unless poconosteve does his own form of censorship, perhaps by printing out only those topics which are about naturism, I doubt very much that his family will be convinced.

Of course I may be wrong about Beanie Doll collectors.

Rik

(I suppose I'll be in trouble for another long post [img]/infopop/emoticons/icon_frown.gif[/img] )

Announcement

first time visit

first time visit

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment

Comment