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I'm in my first year of the nudist lifestyle and enjoying it very much! I have a question though, what is the difference between landed and non-landed? Sunny Haven Park is near where I live here in South Bend, Indiana. I plan to visit next Spring/Summer. Has anyone been there? Are there any other groups or clubs near by?
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I'm in my first year of the nudist lifestyle and enjoying it very much! I have a question though, what is the difference between landed and non-landed? Sunny Haven Park is near where I live here in South Bend, Indiana. I plan to visit next Spring/Summer. Has anyone been there? Are there any other groups or clubs near by? -
Non-landed clubs are also called travel clubs. The club doesn't own property. So they meet at member's homes or travel to local Landed clubs (those are the ones that do have property).Originally posted by jann8000:
Hope this helps.
Take Care & Be A Bare,
DavidLast edited by D-TX; 09-22-2007, 09:28 PM. Reason: Fixing "quotes", they didn't transition well to the new forum.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by jann8000:
I'm in my first year of the nudist lifestyle and enjoying it very much! I have a question though, what is the difference between landed and non-landed? Sunny Haven Park is near where I live here in South Bend, Indiana. I plan to visit next Spring/Summer. Has anyone been there? Are there any other groups or clubs near by?
Haven't been there but I will expand a little bit on D-TX's answer.
A "Landed" club is one that owns or leases grounds. In other words, a club that you go to that may have its own lake, or pool, and facilities.
A "Non-Landed" club used to be called a "Travel" club, and AANR still (archaically) puts a "T" flag next to its non-landed clubs.
It can be one of the following -
- a social group that holds gatherings at people's homes or rented facilities
- a group that travels to landed club facilities
- a group whose members have an affiliation with a landed club that has chosen not to link itself up to AANR or TNS.Comment
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I have been to Sunny Haven and it is OK, but if I were you, I would go a little farther, to Union City Michigan to the Turtle Lake
Resort which is a much better resort.Comment
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quote:- a group whose members have an affiliation with a landed club that has chosen not to link itself up to AANR or TNS.
Your third explanation of a Non Landed Club is Incorrect
A landed club that does not have AANR/TNS affiliation or its members would never be considered a Non-Landed Club. Affiliation or not a Landed club is a Landed Club.
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quote:Originally posted by NakedGary:
usuallylurk
[QUOTE]- a group whose members have an affiliation with a landed club that has chosen not to link itself up to AANR or TNS.
Your third explanation of a Non Landed Club is Incorrect
NO IT IS NOT INCORRECT.
I am a member of a non-landed club , which falls into that exact category. And I have been a member of it for 12 years, and served as a general assembly delegate to the AANR convention for it.
It is the Sherwood Forest Club. That club was created by Cedar Waters members to provide ASA (now AANR) membership for Cedar Waters members who wished to retain it.
In later years, they also decided to hold winter events.
The history = In 1961, Cedar Waters - a landed club started in 1950 - withdrew from the ASA. Sherwood was formed to allow members to continue to hold ASA membership if they wanted it. The "Sherwood" name was a play on the town where Cedar Waters is located - Nottingham, NH.
In the days of the old 100 percent rule, several landed club owners chose to dump their club's ASA/AANR affiliation, and allowed the members to form "travel clubs" on the grounds through which they could obtain AANR membership if they wanted it.
When I first started in nudism, there were several clubs that fit into that category. Lupin Lodge was one -- their ASA "affiliate travel club" was "LLASA". That enabled them to grow without demanding their members and visitors join ASA after three visits. Lupin was NOT an ASA affiliated club, but they had an ASA travel club on the grounds.
Another club that follows the Cedar Waters/Sherwood Forest model is Dyer Woods in Foster, RI. Dyer Woods is not AANR affiliated but the AANR travel club on the grounds, called "CMR Club" -- is. http://www.sunclad.com/cmr
"CMR" is an acronym for Connecticut-Massachusetts-Rhode Island, as Dyer Woods is located very close to the intersecting borders of those three states.
Now that you can obtain AANR membership via mail order, and the 100 percent rule is kaput, there advantage for these clubs is that their members get a lower AANR membership fee.
Also, within nudist circles, if you belong to the travel club, you are considered "connected" to the landed club.
As I pointed out, there are at least two travel clubs today that have connections to non-affiliated landed clubs.
Lupin Lodge did become an ASA/AANR affiliate.
My history is a little hazy but I believe CMR briefly turned their long standing AANR membership affiliation over to Dyer Woods, and then took it back later.
Cedar Waters never reaffiliated with AANR.Comment
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I see now your 3rd did say group so your half right.
Not all non-landed club members are affiliated with landed clubs, either are some landed clubs members affiliated with AANR or TNS.Comment
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quote:Originally posted by NakedGary:
your talking about a group or membership called a non-landed or travel club.
I was talking about the psysical club -- A landed club is a landed club weither it has affilated member or not, or a outside group or T-club members are affiliated or not.
Yes, I know. I said exactly that -- I quote myself =
a GROUP WHOSE MEMBERS HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH A LANDED CLUB THAT HAS CHOSEN TO NOT LINK UP WITH AANR OR TNS.
Please read thoroughly what I said. During the 50s and 60s a lot of "Travel Clubs" formed to allow landed club owners a way to duck the old ASA 100 percent rule while allowing their members to obtain ASA membership. Some of those Travel Clubs still exist today.
I also said it can be "ONE OF THE THREE". So I am a little more than "half right".
I should explain that I've been around organized nudism for close to 30 years, and I am extremely familiar with this concept, having been a member, volunteer, and delegate of such a club for over a decade.
But no problem, I've had to explain it to both newbies and old vets for a long, long time.Comment
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Landed club is a term used across the world. How can it be defined in terms of affiliation to American organizations?Comment
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Nonlanded clubs may also have clothed events as well as having events at members' homes with pools, hot tubs, trails, ping pong, horseshoes, etc. Travelites (my club) also has canoe trips and boating excursions. I bring my members to visit landed clubs such as Carolina Foothills, Cedar Creek, and Whispering Pines during warmer months. Belonging to a year-round venue such as a nonlanded club makes sense. I miss my friends when I don't see them. That was one of the reasons I originally founded Travelites.
I also get bored just laying around a pool and occasionally playing volleyball or taking walks. The ability to have variety in activities makes having the nonlanded club the best of it all.
It's also less expensive to join a nonlanded club than a landed club.
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