Are pictures of young naturists safe?

[TJ Naturist]

Hi all,

I was wondering your opinion about the safety of young naturist pictures, such as teens for example. With the internet these days some wouldn't think of this, yet there are probably some sites with non sexual pictures of young nudists/naturists naked. Or, what about http://www.enature.net/ ? They have a video series with young naturists.

I was thinking, if it was really THAT dangerous, I don't think that the parents would let their kid's nude pictures be uploaded to the internet. What do you think?

~TJ

[TJ Naturist]

Hi all,

I was wondering your opinion about the safety of young naturist pictures, such as teens for example. With the internet these days some wouldn't think of this, yet there are probably some sites with non sexual pictures of young nudists/naturists naked. Or, what about http://www.enature.net/ ? They have a video series with young naturists.

I was thinking, if it was really THAT dangerous, I don't think that the parents would let their kid's nude pictures be uploaded to the internet. What do you think?

~TJ

[Rik]

What do you mean by dangerous? Who is in danger? What is the nature of the danger?

[TJ Naturist]

Hi Rik,

By "dangerous", I was meaning the possibility of the person in the photo being stalked or something of the like.

By the way (and this is completely off-topic), thats a cool Sonic avatar image you've got. I still have some Sonic games on my old 16-bit Sega Genesis.

~TJ

[Rik]

TJ

I suppose there is always a theoretical possibility of someone (unclothed or clothed) in a photo being identified and then stalked but it seems a fairly remote possibility. Im not convinced that nudists are in any greater danger than non-nudists.

Glad you like the avatar - a bit of nostalgia eh?

Rik

[CT]

I think I understand what TJ is getting at, Rob & I have had some experience with what you are talking about.

A few years ago there where pictures of us (Rob & I) naked at our local beach on a naturist website and they ended up on a gay porno site. It took 12 months for us to get them taken off the porno site and the naturist site. I might add that the naturist site is no longer up and running.

I insisted when Rob did the family website that there where no naturist pictures of either of us on the site.

CT

[Bartamus]

Casey: I understand your fears about naturist
photos. Although your family's website is awesome!

[RT]

Hey Bart

Thanks for the kind words about our family website, I'm working on the few hiccups on the site today.

I ditto's Casey's fears about naturist photo's, only from experience, I just hope non of the INA staff photo's end up on porn sites.

RT

[Rik]

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Originally posted by CT:
[qb]I insisted when Rob did the family website that there where no naturist pictures of either of us on the site.[/qb]

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But it's apparently ok to have pictures of other young naturists on your web site. Why is that?

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[NakedInCT]

Hi there,
New to nudism, new to this site. Great stuff!

Let's remember that the nudism we enjoy has nothing to do with sexuality. So pictures are "safe" or "unsafe" regardless of whether the people in the pictures are wearing clothes. Pretend there are clothes on the people in the picture and ask yourself whether you--or any court--would consider them obscene. (Conversely, you don't need any nudity at all to have obscene images.) I doubt pictures of children or teenagers swimming or playing volleyball could ever be considered obscene by any measure, legal or otherwise.

Nudism means total freedom, which means people of all ages will get their pictures taken without much thought. There will always be dangerous people looking for prey, but they're not going to hang around a naturist Web site where monitors kick you off if you show even the slightest bit of impropriety.

[Bartamus]

Rik: I gave RT permission to use our photos to
promote their and our naturist lifestyle. I've
gotten to know RT fairly well over these last
few months. It's apparent to me that he and his
bro got taken advantage of..by way illegal photos. As a result they're both very cautious.
Naturally it's hard for them to trust people.
I don't see a double standard here. They are big
INA supporters and we've very glad to have them.

[Bartamus]

You'd think an adminstrator could string together
a cohesive thought! I meant to say that my
Australian naturist friends RT and CT were
photographed at a nude beach illegally. Their
photos ended up in the wrong hands. Naturally
they're a bit suspicious. We at INA are very
lucky to have them as part of our family.

[Bob S.]

Any picture that is placed on a public site is subject to the possibility of being downloaded onto someone else's computer. From there, the picture can go virtually anywhere. Nudist pics can be placed on "soft-core" porn sites and the like.

The only danger with that is finding out that your or your child's picture is now on this porn site. The only consolation is if the pictures are copywritten by the owner of the specific website where it was first placed. In that case, the owner of the picture can threaten legal action unless the pic us removed.

It does get more dangerous the more information that is given either in the picture or on the page. I would not recommend giving a child's last name or even city within a site that contains the child's picture, clothed, nude, or head shot. That is just asking for trouble. To a lesser extent adults should also follow this rule.

As for videos, I can't imagine who would by them. I actually bought two Helios Natura videos just to see what they were like and found them unbelievably boring, not only because they were in Polish (I think), but also because they were basically home movies of non-events. Unless you just enjoy seeing naked people, nude home movies will probably not interest you.

Bob S.

[j4king]

I am relatively new to naturism and have yet to experience social nudity. When I started visiting naturist web sites a few months ago I was always surprised when I saw pictures of nude people, but after a while I realized that seeing pictures of social nudity helped me understand how unsexual nudity is, and made me more comfortable with the idea of social nudity. And it is my understanding that this is precisely the reason that they are posted.

However, I still do not understand selling nudist pictures and/or videos. Why would true nudists want to pay for such (especially of people they don't know) when they live it? It seems to me the only people interested in buying such material would be those into (soft) pornography, and why would a true naturist site want to be involved in this?

One of the videos advertised on enature.net reads "Junior Miss Pageant 1999 vol. 2. 17 girls who have never been filmed before enjoy a day in the sun competing for first prize in a Naturist beauty and talent contest." $100 is the price. It seems to me only a pervert would want to buy something like this.

(It also seems a bit ironic for naturists to have a beauty pageant when one of the whole points of naturism is that bodies come in all shapes and sizes and should all be celebrated alike).

[Rik]

Bart,

I wasn't suggesting they didn't have permission to use the photos but it struck me as odd that on the one hand they appeared to endorse TJ's sentiment that pictures of young people are potentially "dangerous" - and in fact had first hand experience of being exploited and are therefore cautious of allowing further pictures to appear (very understandable) - but on the other hand they don't seem to extend their caution to other young people whose pictures appear on their website.

It may be of course that all of the individuals in the photos (and their parents in the case of minors)are aware, and are quite happy that, their photos are being posted on websites where they can easily be copied to porn sites, but that seems unlikely.

Don't get me wrong, I'm all in favour of naturist photos as it helps to spread the message. Like Casey I'm not sure I would want my photograph on the web but equally I don't publish photos of other people.

So on the face of it, it does look a little like double standards and I guess others might think the same.

However I agree with you that the brothers T website is excellent as are their contributions to these forums.

Rik